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New Weaving Sabre Tine

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Had a good run with the sabre tine so far mix of direct and lightly cultivated ground seems to be suiting our ground, first winter barley poking up now.
 

Mark140259

Member
Location
Grantham
6 metre sabretine weighs 3.2tons. So the website says.
So not that heavy when any modern 200 hp tractor will lift 10 tons. Mounted is better when its wet!
 
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JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
6 metre sabretine weighs 3.2tons. So the website says.
So not that heavy when any modern 200 hp tractor will lift 10 tons. Mounted is better when its wet!
Is that the new one with a plastic hopper, I'm sure someone weighed one on here with the metal hopper and it was over 3.5t?
Its handling it, needs to be a long wheel base proper 200 hp tractor on the front not ones that boost to 200hp.
 

timmyturbo

New Member
6 metre sabretine weighs 3.2tons. So the website says.
So not that heavy when any modern 200 hp tractor will lift 10 tons. Mounted is better when its wet!
Although the weight a tractor can physically lift is ok, if you look at maximum permitted axle weights and gross vehicle weight, nothing smaller than a 7 series JD or Case Optum can legally carry this.
 

timmyturbo

New Member
Empty its still overweight.
A puma 240 weighs 8800kg, plus 1t on the front (which wouldn't be enough) plus fuel 400kg ish, plus 3.2t of drill = 13400kg plus driver and sarnies!
The max permitted gross vehicle weight is 13000kg.
John Deere 6 series gets closer - you can just about carry an empty drill legally.
They need to bring out a factory option of front tank and rear toolbar.
 

timmyturbo

New Member
think there is that option already ?
They will build it if you ask, but it's not listed on the options so its an odd ball if you come to resell it. Also it looks a bit of a bodge with the brackets still in place for the tank, and their front hopper is a bit behind the times.
Hopefully they will put a bit of work into a nice front tank like the sumo and a reworked frame to lose the brackets.
 

fieldfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
They will build it if you ask, but it's not listed on the options so its an odd ball if you come to resell it. Also it looks a bit of a bodge with the brackets still in place for the tank, and their front hopper is a bit behind the times.
Hopefully they will put a bit of work into a nice front tank like the sumo and a reworked frame to lose the brackets.
Are you connected to a machinery manufacturer?
 

timmyturbo

New Member
Are you connected to a machinery manufacturer?
Just to clarify incase it sounds like I'm slating weaving (I'm not) - I like weaving as a company. They really are fantastic to deal with, and we have run four of their tine drills, and several other bits of kit, over the years.
I really want to like the sabre tine, but as a mounted unit I think it misses the mark due to weight issues.
I come from an engineering background and used to work in the ag tyre trade so I understand axle weights and gross vehicle weights.
I desperately want the front hopper version, but it needs tweaking first.
 

JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
Just to clarify incase it sounds like I'm slating weaving (I'm not) - I like weaving as a company. They really are fantastic to deal with, and we have run four of their tine drills, and several other bits of kit, over the years.
I really want to like the sabre tine, but as a mounted unit I think it misses the mark due to weight issues.
I come from an engineering background and used to work in the ag tyre trade so I understand axle weights and gross vehicle weights.
I desperately want the front hopper version, but it needs tweaking first.
Bob Lincs has the 6m sabre tine toolbar/ coulters and a front tank.
 

fieldfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Just to clarify incase it sounds like I'm slating weaving (I'm not) - I like weaving as a company. They really are fantastic to deal with, and we have run four of their tine drills, and several other bits of kit, over the years.
I really want to like the sabre tine, but as a mounted unit I think it misses the mark due to weight issues.
I come from an engineering background and used to work in the ag tyre trade so I understand axle weights and gross vehicle weights.
I desperately want the front hopper version, but it needs tweaking first.
You. Best not look at the weights of some mounted cultivators. 😁
 

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
Empty its still overweight.
A puma 240 weighs 8800kg, plus 1t on the front (which wouldn't be enough) plus fuel 400kg ish, plus 3.2t of drill = 13400kg plus driver and sarnies!
The max permitted gross vehicle weight is 13000kg.
John Deere 6 series gets closer - you can just about carry an empty drill legally.
They need to bring out a factory option of front tank and rear toolbar.
You raise a good point that deserves more attention. Seems lots of tractors using mounted equipment when combined with fuel, front and wheel weights would be over their maximum gross weight
 

AT Aloss

Member
Innovate UK
Empty its still overweight.
A puma 240 weighs 8800kg, plus 1t on the front (which wouldn't be enough) plus fuel 400kg ish, plus 3.2t of drill = 13400kg plus driver and sarnies!
The max permitted gross vehicle weight is 13000kg.
John Deere 6 series gets closer - you can just about carry an empty drill legally.
They need to bring out a factory option of front tank and rear toolbar.
I guess that's why they demonstrate it on a Fendt 724
 

Bob lincs

Member
Arable Farmer
They will build it if you ask, but it's not listed on the options so its an odd ball if you come to resell it. Also it looks a bit of a bodge with the brackets still in place for the tank, and their front hopper is a bit behind the times.
Hopefully they will put a bit of work into a nice front tank like the sumo and a reworked frame to lose the brackets.
They will build it if you ask, but it's not listed on the options so its an odd ball if you come to resell it. Also it looks a bit of a bodge with the brackets still in place for the tank, and their front hopper is a bit behind the times.
Hopefully they will put a bit of work into a nice front tank like the sumo and a reworked frame to lose the brackets.
The remaining brackets are ideal if you want to add a slug pellet or avadex applicator.
 

JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
That had crossed my mind as well Bob, I have stocks applicator on the back our kuhn megant which we somehow managed to squeeze in.
 

matthewizod

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Chipping norton
Has anyone fitted a stocks applicator to the new sabre tine? We are wondering where best to put it!

That had crossed my mind as well Bob, I have stocks applicator on the back our kuhn megant which we somehow managed to squeeze in. (y)

Am i right in thinking the megant folds up like the sabre tine? How did you squeeze the applicator in?

Thanks
 

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