No Deal Brexit

[Ncap]

No, we need to end it to commence sales to new fta's

And those new Free Trade Deals...they won't come with any conditions will they. 'cos conditions of any sort impinge on our 'sovereignty'. We only want deals on our terms. You give it all to us 'cos we're very, very special and we used to fly Spitfires. (IDS still dresses as if he's about to fly one.)

 

[bobk]

Have we got any new FTAs of any substance?

They've signed 58 , so there must be something to go at , which is more than can be said for Germany and France

 

[The Agrarian]

This has probably been discussed before. But I have just been reading a BBC article on the various points covered by the NI protocol. It is claimed that rights in the GFA are respected by allowing continued freedom of movement throughout the eu for people who live in Northern Ireland. And protects their identity as British or Irish, or both. Does that mean that a British passport from northern Ireland affords different travel rights to one from the rest of the UK?

 

[lloyd]

It’s not this household’s main income stream.

If you treat it like a hobby you should be alright then.

 

[bobk]

This has probably been discussed before. But I have just been reading a BBC article on the various points covered by the NI protocol. It is claimed that rights in the GFA are respected by allowing continued freedom of movement throughout the eu for people who live in Northern Ireland. And protects their identity as British or Irish, or both. Does that mean that a British passport from northern Ireland affords different travel rights to one from the rest of the UK?

Sounds like it

 

[Highland Mule]

They've signed 58 , so there must be something to go at , which is more than can be said for Germany and France

Last I checked, the EU had 982 bilateral agreements, of which 161 related to trade.

How many of the 58 you cite are of substance?

 

[bobk]

Last I checked, the EU had 982 bilateral agreements, of which 161 related to trade.

How many of the 58 you cite are of substance?

Japan and S Korea for a start

 

[lloyd]

They've signed 58 , so there must be something to go at , which is more than can be said for Germany and France

That's great news ,have you got some details on
the extra agriculture products we're going to sell them?

 

[bobk]

That's great news ,have you got some details on
the extra agriculture products we're going to sell them?

No idea about ag , anyway hows about we feed our own first and then see if there's any leftovers

 

[Highland Mule]

Japan and S Korea for a start

Going back to your post #2198, why do we need to stop the current deals to start this one? Japan deal is dated 1/1/21 to start, but is it contingent on not having an arrangement with the EU?

 

[bobk]

Going back to your post #2198, why do we need to stop the current deals to start this one? Japan deal is dated 1/1/21 to start, but is it contingent on not having an arrangement with the EU?

I'm assuming the EU will have a hissy as we haven't concluded brexit

 

[lloyd]

No idea about ag , anyway hows about we feed our own first and then see if there's any leftovers

We will have to start growing rice and making pasta first of all.

 

[Highland Mule]

I'm assuming the EU will have a hissy as we haven't concluded brexit

And you know what happens when you assume...

I don’t know the answer to my question either, by the way.

 

[bobk]

And you know what happens when you assume...

I don’t know the answer to my question either, by the way.

The assumption was due to their form over the last 4 years .

 

[Christoph1945]

that is an assumption, we do not yet know, what life will be like after brexit, because it hasn't happened. That is not to say you are wrong, many people hold that view. It might be wonderful, and many people hold that view, the truth is, we are taking a massive step into the unknown, and it's scary. For 50 yrs we have had the EU sat, on our shoulders, guiding, protecting our interests, or interests they deem to be correct. It is going to happen, or not, and it is up to all of us, to make the most of it, after all, there is nothing we can do to alter it.

And 'all' of us to take care of each other and let none fall by the wayside.

 

[Ncap]

No idea about ag , anyway hows about we feed our own first and then see if there's any leftovers

Ooh, don’t forget those ‘innovative jam products’ that disgraced former defence secretary Liam Fox ‘struck’ such a manly deal on.

 

[neilo]

They've signed 58 , so there must be something to go at , which is more than can be said for Germany and France

I understand that almost all of them are an agreement to just roll over the EU trade deals those countries had, so if transition were to be extended, presumably the huge amount of trade we do to those countries would carry on under the original terms.

 

[bobk]

I understand that almost all of them are an agreement to just roll over the EU trade deals those countries had, so if transition were to be extended, presumably the huge amount of trade we do to those countries would carry on under the original terms.

They would I suppose but Boris will be in a ditch if it were extended

The new fta's have no EU involvement
India also in the pipeline

 

[gone]

Well ballox to that. It's an affront.

I do feel sorry for Unionists that didn't vote for Brexit, but what the hell did the DUP expect, Brexit was always going to speed a move towards a united Ireland and they pee'd off a lot of Tories during the last Parliament.

 

[More to life]

The fact that Boris has back tracked past today’s deadline means a deal at any cost is on the cards.