No Deal Brexit

[bobk]

They will certainly do their best to inflict as much pain as poss, in y experience that has potential to back fire big time.

Only if the polits don't bottle it , which they inevitably will .

 

[Hilly]

I could hardly care less about the punishment factor - to be honest I am broadly in agreement with Neilo - I see short term disruption ahead and long term not too much change.

What exercises me is Theresa, Gove and Fox attempting to polish a turd and present it to the UK public as a chocolate bar

These talks have been so badly bungled that it has to be deliberate - Wedgie Benn himself could not have produced this foul up on his best day!

Agree.

 

[bobk]

I could hardly care less about the punishment factor - to be honest I am broadly in agreement with Neilo - I see short term disruption ahead and long term not too much change.

What exercises me is Theresa, Gove and Fox attempting to polish a turd and present it to the UK public as a chocolate bar

These talks have been so badly bungled that it has to be deliberate - Wedgie Benn himself could not have produced this foul up on his best day!

To end in no deal ? if so I think you over emphasise the govts capabilities .. I'd suggest Mrs May is serious .... her deal is the only option .

 

[Hilly]

To end in no deal ? if so I think you over emphasise the govts capabilities .. I'd suggest Mrs May is serious .... her deal is the only option .

She either using the rejection of her deal as a water tight excuse for no deal , or going to use the rejection as an excuse to remain, or take her deal 2 out of 3 see us remaining and her being remain...........

 

[bobk]

She either using the rejection of her deal as a water tight excuse for no deal , or going to use the rejection as an excuse to remain, or take her deal 2 out of 3 see us remaining and her being remain...........

That's my interpretation of the way we are presently . the Commons will sh!t themselves at no deal ..... which would be good , bunch of tossers

 

[brigadoon]

To end in no deal ? if so I think you over emphasise the govts capabilities .. I'd suggest Mrs May is serious .... her deal is the only option .

No - not to end in no deal - to negotiate a deal which locks us into the EU for the forseeable future

Mrs May does not have a deal in any shape form or description - she has an agreement to talk about a deal for the future and that is all she has, other than an agreement to preserve the status quo pending that final agreement

In order to get that agreement to talk about a deal she has conceded that the UK will not leave arbitrarily and can only leave with the agreement of all 27 EU members.

Its a non starter and should be kicked into touch by Parliament - if that is genuinely the best she can do then no deal is preferable (imo)

 

[bobk]

No - not to end in no deal - to negotiate a deal which locks us into the EU for the forseeable future

Mrs May does not have a deal in any shape form or description - she has an agreement to talk about a deal for the future and that is all she has, other than an agreement to preserve the status quo pending that final agreement

In order to get that agreement to talk about a deal she has conceded that the UK will not leave arbitrarily and can only leave with the agreement of all 27 EU members.

Its a non starter and should be kicked into touch by Parliament - if that is genuinely the best she can do then no deal is preferable (imo)

Your opinion and my opinion are not the issue , what is Mrs Mays opinion ? it ain't no deal for sure .... although imo it's the only way to get resolution .

 

[neilo]

Your opinion and my opinion are not the issue , what is Mrs Mays opinion ? it ain't no deal for sure .... although imo it's the only way to get resolution .

Some (not me, before you all start with the insults again) would say that another way to a resolution is to go back and ask the British public again, now the options are (slightly) clearer......

 

[M-J-G]

https://www.manufacturing.net/artic...-more-about-where-ingredients-their-food-come

Its heading the right direction.

I'm afraid I wouldn't put much faith a report suggesting that people want to know more about traceability when the report has been compiled by a company who specialise in product traceability

I hate to say it, but the majority of people buy what is cheap and convenient, hence the supermarket's success from delivering convenience at relatively low costs.

 

[new/man]

Save a lot of food miles for sure, be in everyone's favour, transporting stuff around the world for no reason has to stop.

tell me why you voted leave in the referendum

 

[Hilly]

I'm afraid I wouldn't put much faith a report suggesting that people want to know more about traceability when the report has been compiled by a company who specialise in product traceability

I hate to say it, but the majority of people buy what is cheap and convenient, hence the supermarket's success from delivering convenience at relatively low costs.

Another doom monger, fair few super markets promoting British meat, alot heavily supporting Scottish meat people want to support the uk farmer and want to now they getting good stuff traceable thats why super markets are providing this as they know that is what alot now want, they would not be doing it and doing it successfully if it isnt wanted. Last time i was in Aldi about two isles of nothing but Scottish produce the amount of Scottish produce and marketing was great to see.

 

[M-J-G]

Another doom monger, fair few super markets promoting British meat, alot heavily supporting Scottish meat people want to support the uk farmer and want to now they getting good stuff traceable thats why super markets are providing this as they know that is what alot now want, they would not be doing it and doing it successfully if it isnt wanted. Last time i was in Aldi about two isles of nothing but Scottish produce the amount of Scottish produce and marketing was great to see.

I am a doom monger because I'm not sucked in by a biased survey and suggest that most people shop where is the cheapest and most convenient?
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a doom monger, and I don't think my post was anything sub realistic.

I never said Super markets didn't support the British farmer, I did indicate that the do generally offer produce at a better balance of price and convenience than a specialist retailer which has been key to their success.

Out of interest, why were you shopping in Aldi and not M&S or the High Street?

 

[Hilly]

I am a doom monger because I'm not sucked in by a biased survey and suggest that most people shop where is the cheapest and most convenient?
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a doom monger, and I don't think my post was anything sub realistic.

I never said Super markets didn't support the British farmer, I did indicate that the do generally offer produce at a better balance of price and convenience than a specialist retailer which has been key to their success.

Out of interest, why were you shopping in Aldi and not M&S or the High Street?

I do shop on the high street especially for meat, actually a farm shop, i dont like a lot of things M&S SELL and they are miles away. Aldi are great always promoting Scottish produce.

 

[M-J-G]

I do shop on the high street especially for meat, actually a farm shop, i dont like a lot of things M&S SELL and they are miles away. Aldi are great always promoting Scottish produce.

So Aldi are convenient, with the added benefit of being cheap.

You use the high street and farm shops, but you and I are pretty well off I comparison to the majority.
Average working class and low income families shop to a budget, and in many cases since both people in these households work set hours, so later opening hours in supermarkets tend to be attractive as well as them being more affordable.

The point I make is not what the supermarket sells, it's that people go there for convenience and cheap shopping.
Since they are on average cheaper for a weekly shop than smaller retailers, the high streets becoming filled with bookies, charity shops and chip shops etc. and supermarkets are taking over.

Out of interest, if Aldi are very pro Scottish would they l be a good supermarket to back if you are anti English produce being sold in Scottish shops?

 

[brigadoon]

Some (not me, before you all start with the insults again) would say that another way to a resolution is to go back and ask the British public again, now the options are (slightly) clearer......

That is not a way to a resolution - simply a way to create discord

The ballot paper was quite clear - the option was to leave or stay there was nothing mentioned about leaving as long as it was easy

Those agitating for a second run of the same question are simply denying democracy

 

[M-J-G]

That is not a way to a resolution - simply a way to create discord

The ballot paper was quite clear - the option was to leave or stay there was nothing mentioned about leaving as long as it was easy

Those agitating for a second run of the same question are simply denying democracy

Pending agreements should have been made pre referendum so that people knew what they were letting themselves in for.

That way if people voted for a mess they knew that's what they would get.

Anyone voting for an unknown can't complain about what they end up with.

And before anyone jumps to defend, I'm not complaining!

 

[Pivo]

Interesting facts and fiction:

 

[Demolition Man]

http://www.uecbv.eu/UECBV/documents/BrexitMeatreport12373.pdf

 

[Demolition Man]

Report by EU meat union as to expected effect of No Deal Brexit on Remaining EU countries. Good to read it from EU perspective for a change. The beef and pig meat sector in the UK could benefit from a shortage in the short teerm?

 

[More to life]

So Aldi are convenient, with the added benefit of being cheap.

You use the high street and farm shops, but you and I are pretty well off I comparison to the majority.
Average working class and low income families shop to a budget, and in many cases since both people in these households work set hours, so later opening hours in supermarkets tend to be attractive as well as them being more affordable.

The point I make is not what the supermarket sells, it's that people go there for convenience and cheap shopping.
Since they are on average cheaper for a weekly shop than smaller retailers, the high streets becoming filled with bookies, charity shops and chip shops etc. and supermarkets are taking over.

Out of interest, if Aldi are very pro Scottish would they l be a good supermarket to back if you are anti English produce being sold in Scottish shops?

Something like 90% of shoppers will say the make choices based on origin or standards when asked. Then forget completely once they have a trolley in hand,price drives almost all shopping choices.