Yep, have got one this year, but do rear 30 odd Herefords for a couple of field we can't cut.
replacement needs going forward
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Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
I can't rear them for that, that's for sure
Farmer Keith
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- North Cumbria
Something I’ve never worked out exactly but it’s somewhere between £700 and £900 here. Out wintering them is the key although I realise that’s not possible for everyone.
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
When I get 5 minutes I'm going to start a thread with all my costings on it for everyone to pick apart, I know my heifer rearing cost came to £1420 to get them to 25 months with a calf but that's not outwintering and I reckon if I could find more land to grow corn and then drill a fodder crop in afterwards I could shave a quarter off that easily
The aims long term here are to first get to numbers, then pay off the loan and then see where we are as I have a break clause in my tenancy after 5 years so depending on if I'm allowed to stay ill try and save some pennies for buying land, if I'm moved on I'll be looking to out a parlour in at dad's so will be fairly spent out!
buffalo_soldier
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- cumbria
It'll be a blip.
Fair swing to using sexed semen going on. What most folk do, including myself, is use the same amount of straws as they did with conventional.
Then, yr3 onwards when you do have confidence. You just use the straws your data tells you need.
Which is where I was last year. I'm using less than half the number of b/w straws now as to when I started.
Fair swing to using sexed semen going on. What most folk do, including myself, is use the same amount of straws as they did with conventional.
Then, yr3 onwards when you do have confidence. You just use the straws your data tells you need.
Which is where I was last year. I'm using less than half the number of b/w straws now as to when I started.
Scholsey
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- Herefordshire
are you costing the £200 you lost from the sale of the BB calf it could have been? I put my rearing cost at £2000+ to calf at 24m to sexed semen.
buffalo_soldier
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- cumbria
I was thinking it's more likely his out of pocket cost, rather than a true costing.
Going back now but I used to out winter stock on winter lets, they were damn near £1/hd/wk just in diesel checking them
lazy farmer
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- som/dor border
Agreed I could never make the costs any less than having them in.I was thinking it's more likely his out of pocket cost, rather than a true costing.
Going back now but I used to out winter stock on winter lets, they were damn near £1/hd/wk just in diesel checking them
apart from
The opportunity cost of any empty shed.
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
That shocked me at first but just thinking about it, that doesn't seem too bad at all?
Surely you would use way way way more scraping up, bedding down, feeding up, spreading dung/slurry etc than you ever would driving with a tractor and loader to wherever the heifers are bing kept and putting a couple of bales in and then moving an electric fence?
Surely you would use way way way more scraping up, bedding down, feeding up, spreading dung/slurry etc than you ever would driving with a tractor and loader to wherever the heifers are bing kept and putting a couple of bales in and then moving an electric fence?
I was thinking it's more likely his out of pocket cost, rather than a true costing.
Going back now but I used to out winter stock on winter lets, they were damn near £1/hd/wk just in diesel checking them
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- South Molton
That's around the cost that AHDB , a government quango, calculated it cost to rear a heifer.
You would have thought they would have trusted their own when working out compensation for TB reactors value.
Nope what the costs are is immaterial and you have to accept a "market value" with all animals in the classes they decided being exactly the same value.
Farmer Keith
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- North Cumbria
Never sold a calf here, sell them as AA stores at 14-18 months @£1000+ I always put a B&W heifer calf at a similar value to an equivalent beef calf.
what are you checking them with? A tank? Outwinter around 150 head of stock here and will be not even be using £1/hd/month in diesel? Tend to be passing anyway so just walk in and move the fences/feeders. We are £000s a year better off rearing our own as opposed to when we were a flying herd. It’s certainly not costing me what AHDB claim it is.I was thinking it's more likely his out of pocket cost, rather than a true costing.
Going back now but I used to out winter stock on winter lets, they were damn near £1/hd/wk just in diesel checking them
The other major thing is you never get any health problems, no pneumonia, no injury’s, no losses and a very healthy set of heifers to bring into your herd.
- Location
- M6 Hard shoulder
Everything has a value to sell, it all comes off the price paid.
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- M6 Hard shoulder
