Skyfall drilling this week

[principal skinner]

Looks like we MAY get an opportunity to drill later this week, push on with Skyfall h/s and in stock or switch to sp barley or oats? All in stock and ready to go, I think stick with Wheat for another ten days max. Thoughts please

 

[SilliamWhale]

I wouldnt

 

[jonnieboy]

Big big seed rate didn’t tiller well last year
Looked ok till combine went in

 

[Andrew K]

Spring wheat seed doesnt tiller either.....

 

[BRBX]

same here , will stick with skyfall till mid march , more winter to come apparently so will push on soon as.

 

[farmerfred86]

Spring barley is nearly always the best margin in this situation. Reduced BG seed return too. Only use sky fall if its a contractual/essential rotational reason.

 

[snarling bee]

On the basis Skyfall will be okay this time of year, even for another 6 weeks, and the price of milling wheat will exceed that of barley or oats, I would go with the Skyfall if I could travel.
If you are after BG control then you shouldn't be drilling for another 5 weeks anyway.

 

[MrNoo]

Skyfall will be fine, as above, bang the seedrate up and slot it in!

 

[Little squeak]

I would leave skyfall to James Bond. I was thinking of tryng SKYWAY myself next year

 

[Feldspar]

Highest margin fields we had last year was Siskin planted mid Feb. Did about 7.5 t/ha with no-pre em, 2 cheap fungides. Compared to our rather disastrous spring oats there was a well above a £500/ha margin difference.

 

[Brisel]

Spring barley is nearly always the best margin in this situation. Reduced BG seed return too. Only use sky fall if its a contractual/essential rotational reason.

Mulika spring wheat out performed Laureate spring barley here by £250/ha gross margin. Same yield, similar growing costs, same N, same seed rate, just a very different price for feed wheat vs feed barley.

I will try & sow Skyfall for another 3 weeks before switching to spring wheat & spring barley. It all depends on what soil type you are on, blackgrass & what you will do to it afterwards. The spread between wheat & barley grain prices should be less this year as both will potentially be at export parity.

 

[Chalky]

Skyfall all the way, Sowed mid march last year, 7t/ha average against spring sown late march 6.5T. Straw & head charachteristics far better from Skyfall-plus the premium-and we would never consider millers in normal sowing slot as can not get protein.

 

[Bax]

Skyfall drilled post Sugar Beet 9th March last year did over 7t, had Ergot in though. Cochise drilled late March yielded better, with out the late summer rains last year though spring planted wheats would have been disappointing. May be spring barley would be a better bet if you can sow it early this year.

 

[Panzer]

How many s/m2 for average seedbed this time of year for Skyfall?

 

[Brisel]

How many s/m2 for average seedbed this time of year for Skyfall?

Now? 425-450, depending on your definition of average and the germination %

 

[principal skinner]

I will go at 450 minimum

 

[Flat 10]

Last year it was discussed that there was some leeway in latest safe sowing dates for ww and as such I drilled some end feb cutoff 7march and it was fine. As such does that mean that before the cutoff date you are pretty much guaranteed it will vernalise? Do you have any comeback if it doesn’t?

 

[Flat 10]

Thanks brisel. As I suspected.

 

[MrNoo]

Last year it was discussed that there was some leeway in latest safe sowing dates for ww and as such I drilled some end feb cutoff 7march and it was fine. As such does that mean that before the cutoff date you are pretty much guaranteed it will vernalise? Do you have any comeback if it doesn’t?

Drilled some 25th March last year and was fine, there were zero frosts after this date

 

[Flat 10]

Drilled some 25th March last year and was fine, there were zero frosts after this date

I wasn’t planning on skyfall though