So how do you achieve low N in sb

[bobk]

Asking for a friend as I'm never growing the shite again .

 

[Wombat]

I really have no idea, if I can get it under 1.9 I think I am doing well. Even this year with no rain we are still in the 1.9’s

 

[teslacoils]

No idea. Irrespective of n, seed rate or yield ours is always 1.9 or more.

 

[bobk]

No idea. Irrespective of n, seed rate or yield ours is always 1.9 or more.

Is there no varietal differences ?
I put no N on and it still came out at 2 .

 

[teslacoils]

I've only grown propino as a spring. All my winter attempts end up around 2. They only take all the bonus away for skinning, germination anyway. Bit of a lark, like peas.

 

[spin cycle]

soil type mainly....plus being near coasts for cooler mists....plus being ripe....previous crop.....n rates

 

[bobk]

soil type mainly....plus being near coasts for cooler mists....plus being ripe....previous crop.....n rates

Chalk ?

 

[B'o'B]

Don’t grow it on wheat land?

 

[spin cycle]

Chalk ?

confess i don't know about chalky soils.......would you describe it as 'heavy'?....light and sandy clay loams over chalk should grow low n

 

[bobk]

confess i don't know about chalky soils.......would you describe it as 'heavy'?....light and sandy clay loams over chalk should grow low n

I know nothing about light and sandy , just heavy wet shite .

 

[spin cycle]

I know nothing about light and sandy , just heavy wet shite .

wheat land not malting barley

 

[bobk]

wheat land not malting barley

I'm a slow learner it would appear

 

[B'o'B]

I know nothing about light and sandy , just heavy wet shite .

That definitely sound more like wheat land to me.
(Please bear in mind I’ve only ever grown 2 crops of feed spring barely in my life and no crops of winter and I farm on light land. So please consider me the authoritative expert on growing barley on heavy land!)

 

[teslacoils]

Ill still grow a malting variety. Will keep sending it to central store, the any "lucky" loads go in the right bin.

 

[yellowbelly]

Our long dead neighbour used to do it every year.....

1. Limestone brash/sand
2. no N
3. home saved seed (stared out as Proctor, but no idea what it would be 30 yrs later, by the time he died
4. sheep - he walked his stubbles all winter with sheep
5. not great yields but it went for malting every year

 

[bobk]

Our long dead neighbour used to do it every year.....

1. Limestone brash/sand
2. no N
3. home saved seed (stared out as Proctor, but no idea what it would be 30 yrs later, by the time he died
4. sheep - he walked his stubbles all winter with sheep
5. not great yields but it went for malting every year

No wonder beer is expensive

 

[spin cycle]

malting barley is not worth growing anymore anyway...poor wheat is good as decent malter

 

[Courier]

Grow it in years when no-one else is........My FiL was a foreman Maltster and he told me that "n" content which gives the grain a steely appearance was mainly a way to create a differential 'cos he could make malt from virtually anything .....

 

[DrWazzock]

Give it about 110 kg N on our sand and if will meet malting spec but yield about 2 t per acre. Give 140 and you will touch 3 t and sell as feed.

 

[T Hectares]

Grow it on inheritantly unfertile soil, put the bulk of the N in the seedbed, don't overdo the N

Bingo, malting ( as long as you cut it before any significant rain ) and cut it as soon as it's fit , easy really