50:50 maize palm kernel

[FarmerWasty]

It's not a bit more expensive though, it'll be £350/t for an 18%
I'd consider putting it through my oopf for the top cows if my engineer ever has time to wire the f**kers up

That's some very expensive cake. Id consider the cake we use as expensive and it's £336 at the moment. Molassed Beet pulp, soya, c16, actisaf, bunch of other stuffs but you get the gist.

 

[Wesley]

Don’t mess about. Get a high hdf compound that’s better balanced and safe to feed. Might be a bit more expensive but maybe less hassle in the long run!

THIS
Those expensive cows don't want fecking about with. All the 'simple' cheap tricks you read about on here are for cheap cows.

Cheap & expensive cows are all the same inside. I think I pee a few feed reps off when I tell them I could put together a far better quality blend than they could make a compound & for a lot less money. All that really matters is that its correctly balanced, not just that it says on paper that it should be.

 

[Jdunn55]

Cheap & expensive cows are all the same inside. I think I pee a few feed reps off when I tell them I could put together a far better quality blend than they could make a compound & for a lot less money. All that really matters is that its correctly balanced, not just that it says on paper that it should be.

What are you feeding out of interest? Pm if you'd prefer...

 

[Jdunn55]

That's some very expensive cake. Id consider the cake we use as expensive and it's £336 at the moment. Molassed Beet pulp, soya, c16, actisaf, bunch of other stuffs but you get the gist.

whos that from? Cake scares me

 

[DairyNerd]

Definitely always try to drive down cost but at the end of the day your concentrates are probably 40% of your cows total intakes so there is a calculation to be had on quality vs price and a sweet spot which I think is far away from PK. I'm sure you can work this out but £10 a ton on 10kg fed is 10p a cow a day, which is about 1/4 of a litre of milk on current prices; that's an uplift of less than 0.75% of your cows milk yield per day you need to pay for it. You could go on like that forever and somewhere you will spend money you won't get back so its finding that optimum place. A lot of HDF cakes would be more expensive as they would include sugar beet which drives the price up but it is a quality feed.

 

[Jdunn55]

Rightly or wrongly, I've gone for an 18% CP 13% me and 11% fibre cake for £305/tonne

I'm hoping this should last me a month, then get the OOPF working, put a cake in their and put wheat gluten, rolled maize and soya hulls in the parlour to make an 16-18% protein blend and that should be £260ish/tonne fed to 6kg max that should support up to 28-30 litres and anything over is fed in oopf up to an extra 6-8kg/day

 

[Wee Willy]

Are you keeping cows inside during the summer to use oopf? I thought you were reducing numbers so you could graze more.

 

[Jdunn55]

Are you keeping cows inside during the summer to use oopf? I thought you were reducing numbers so you could graze more.

That won't be until the autumn all being well. Oopf are portable and will run on batteries so can take them to the cows as necessary but by night I shall try and keep them near to the yard so I can leave them in situ for them to help themselves

 

[ollie989898]

Beware that it does not go through augers well!

I use wheat gluten pellets through the parlour and maize gluten in the wagon for this reason.

Wheat gluten should be considerably cheaper too, around the £200/t mark

Interesting. I didn't know you could get maize gluten in any form but pellets, I assumed they pelleted them prior to shipping to increase their density.

 

[Purbeck]

Interesting. I didn't know you could get maize gluten in any form but pellets, I assumed they pelleted them prior to shipping to increase their density.

It starts off as pellets, but after it's been handled multiple times the pellets degrade. It usually comes as a mixture of meal and pellets, but this winter it's been just flakes essentially, and very low density.

It has not been very cooperative at dropping out of the bin into the bucket this winter!

 

[pappuller]

It starts off as pellets, but after it's been handled multiple times the pellets degrade. It usually comes as a mixture of meal and pellets, but this winter it's been just flakes essentially, and very low density.

It has not been very cooperative at dropping out of the bin into the bucket this winter!

We binned it 12months ago as what was coming out of Liverpool was shite

 

[ollie989898]

That's some very expensive cake. Id consider the cake we use as expensive and it's £336 at the moment. Molassed Beet pulp, soya, c16, actisaf, bunch of other stuffs but you get the gist.

Sounds like premium rocket fuel you are buying there!

 

[O'Reilly]

Many a cake rep has told me that.

Are you going to feed his blend then?

 

[More to life]

Are you going to feed his blend then?

Don't even feed a blend just wheat gluten in the parlour at £212 a ton

 

[Blue.]

It's not a bit more expensive though, it'll be £350/t for an 18%
I'd consider putting it through my oopf for the top cows if my engineer ever has time to wire the f**kers up

What make of oopf’s ?
I wired my gea feeders up,wasn’t much to them.

 

[Jdunn55]

What make of oopf’s ?
I wired my gea feeders up,wasn’t much to them.

Atl I'm crap at stuff like that. My engineer is fantastic which means he in high demand unfortunately