Black lives demo.

[M-J-G]

Ah, but you’re happy to penalise all BAME for the few that are causing trouble? Plenty whites at these rallys too, you know.

The majority of BAME are not protesting, same as the majority of whites aren’t football thugs, etc.

I'd not penalise anyone based on race, that's my point

 

[grainboy]

If’s, but’s and maybes- how far do you want to go back?

No ifs but’s maybes, he was on MI 5 radar,
Deport them,
UK is too weak, we will and are paying the price,
I fear for my 7 week old grandson, what the country will be like in 50 years,
This is not racism, but standing for MY rights.

 

[Highland Mule]

I'd not penalise anyone based on race, that's my point

But you are - you’re denying medicine the ability to prioritise based on a major risk factor, and in the process penalising BAME people from getting the vaccine based on that risk factor, just because you don’t like the fact that some of them (rightly or wrongly) have voiced dissent about a completely unrelated matter.

 

[Spartacus]

If race doesn't come into it, people should not be vaccinated based on their race.
Hence my origional point.

It isn't how they are sorting it! They are going off the most at risk, if thay was those with ginger hair or blue eyes it would be them to get it first!

 

[M-J-G]

But you are - you’re denying medicine the ability to prioritise based on a major risk factor, and in the process penalising BAME people from getting the vaccine based on that risk factor, just because you don’t like the fact that some of them (rightly or wrongly) have voiced dissent about a completely unrelated matter.

I believe all races should be treated the same, and will do exactly that.
I take it you disagree.

 

[yin ewe]

If’s, but’s and maybes- how far do you want to go back?

At least as far as the slave trade

 

[M-J-G]

It isn't how they are sorting it! They are going off the most at risk, if thay was those with ginger hair or blue eyes it would be them to get it first!

So race won't factor? And no differences will be made due to race?

 

[Highland Mule]

I believe all races should be treated the same, and will do exactly that.
I take it you disagree.

I do too, but I also believe that medical professionals should be able to take all risk factors into account in deciding medical treatment - age, gender, hair colour, ethnicity and eye colour being only some of those.

 

[czechmate]

It isn't how they are sorting it! They are going off the most at risk, if thay was those with ginger hair or blue eyes it would be them to get it first!

Is this a patience test?

 

[M-J-G]

At least as far as the slave trade

Make sure to include the slaves of all origins, wouldn't want to be racist now

 

[M-J-G]

I do too, but I also believe that medical professionals should be able to take all risk factors into account in deciding medical treatment - age, gender, hair colour, ethnicity and eye colour being only some of those.

That's your call, I prefer not to make decisions based on people's skin colour.

 

[Highland Mule]

That's your call, I prefer not to make decisions based on people's skin colour.

Well I hope you’re not a doctor then, because you wouldn’t be a very good one if that’s your way of working.

Do you have cattle, and would you take special care of white skinned ones around plants that cause photosentisation?

 

[yin ewe]

Will a healthy 44 year old BAME get the vaccine ahead of a healthy 44 year old white man? Asking for a friend.

 

[Highland Mule]

Will a healthy 44 year old BAME get the vaccine ahead of a healthy 44 year old white man? Asking for a friend.

All else being equal, they appear to have a higher risk, so I would hope they did, if vaccines supplies are limited.

 

[M-J-G]

Well I hope you’re not a doctor then, because you wouldn’t be a very good one if that’s your way of working.

Do you have cattle, and would you take special care of white skinned ones around plants that cause photosentisation?

Poor comparison
Why compare people to an animal that we kill and eat.

Plus cattle aren't bothered if treat them according to colour, people tend to get annoyed if you treat them like cattle.

 

[Highland Mule]

Poor comparison
Why compare people to an animal that we kill and eat.

I was trying to find an aspect of medicine that you might have understood.

Plus cattle aren't bothered if treat them according to colour, people tend to get annoyed if you treat them like cattle.

No, now you're just being contrary. The correct medical treatment is the correct treatment regardless of skin, eye or hair colour, but may be affected by those same factors. Some diseases affect people with certain physical characteristics more than those without them and any competent medical professional will take all factors into account when deciding treatment.

 

[yin ewe]

All else being equal, they appear to have a higher risk, so I would hope they did, if vaccines supplies are limited.

So healthy white man will still be at risk of dieing from the virus, while healthy BAME won't. Seems a bit racist, sort of.

 

[Highland Mule]

So healthy white man will still be at risk of dieing from the virus, while healthy BAME won't. Seems a bit racist, sort of.

Risk is not absolute. Would you prefer to give the vaccines to those that are at less risk or those at most risk?

 

[M-J-G]

I was trying to find an aspect of medicine that you might have understood.



No, now you're just being contrary. The correct medical treatment is the correct treatment regardless of skin, eye or hair colour, but may be affected by those same factors. Some diseases affect people with certain physical characteristics more than those without them and any competent medical professional will take all factors into account when deciding treatment.

I tend to cull animals that are likely to give bother.
I treat cattle and people differently.
I treat all races of people equally.

 

[Highland Mule]

I tend to cull animals that are likely to give bother.
I treat cattle and people differently.
I treat all races of people equally.

I'll leave you to your (imho flawed) position then, and will just be grateful that you're not a doctor.