- Location
- south norfolk
Get an amazone combination drill.will work pretty much all the time.im amazed at some of my crops after the conditions in which they were drilled
Nick...
Nick...
Cheap drill system for 200 acres
- Thread starter robin banks
- Start date
Not everybody does!
but from what I’ve seen disc coulters do need much higher spring pressures than Suffolk’s due to the suffolk pulling thru the ground whereas the disc will ride over the top unless it has the weight to cut in.
Used if you can find one are about 12-20k new start at just over 30k
I’m sure nice machines but a lot of money for 200acres. How much would you expect someone to get out of a 3m per year with say 175HP on?
In terms of output? anywhere from 100 to 1000. Sorry but its hard to say. Some of the winter crops that were drilled by combinations last autunm didnt look pretty to start but will now be the best crops on the farm. Clive's suggestion is good but dosnt suit all farms.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
4m old style trailed Moore unidrill here. You can drill ploughed land, min tilled or direct but doesn’t like wet clay....nothing does though. Old unidrills won’t drill beans as seed tubes not big enough. Plough beans in. We also have an MF30 as an alternative. Haven’t used it for 15 years.
All drills rely on the operator needing good judgement as to what is a viable seedbed to drill into. I haven’t seen a drill yet that is foolproof.
All drills rely on the operator needing good judgement as to what is a viable seedbed to drill into. I haven’t seen a drill yet that is foolproof.
Hereward
Member
- Location
- Peterborough
Tine drill, like a KV TS, you can pick one up in budget, they will drill into anything, very simple, accord metering and high output.
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
Been looking for one. A few more KRMs about, some have the cultivation bar in front.
Issue I have is the 18m tramlines. Wont pull a 6m and 4m dont go into 18. Do not fancy following a light bar all spring trying to make tramlines ?
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
What age of 175hp?
Older with plenty grunt on light ish land 1000 plus acres is no bother newer numb tractor on heavy land will be a lot less
robin banks
Member
- Location
- Ireland
Why do you do a step towards a jd750a is it cost or do you need to do a natural progression towards dd for the land to adapt. Does it make any difference that this land was all in long term ley.
Looked up them Drills and horsch can be got within budget and don't seem Power hungry. But can it do a satisfactory job on heavy clay. And what sort of pre drilling cultivating would need to be done. A lot of the videos I have watched all seem to have been cultivated beforehand.
Benjio
Member
- Location
- Warks/ worcs border
We have downscaled over years from 3000 acres at our peak down to 80 now, tried alsorts, and gone for a cheap old 4 metre vaddy. Had lots of different cultivators, our current setup is a 5 leg 2.5metre shakerator (which we are looking to convert to tilso low disturbance legs, weaving short disc and the vaddy drill.
We are on Very heavy clay, wanting to short disc after harvest, spray for BG if needed, subsoil if needed, short disc again then drill. We had abused the land but now doing a straw for muck exchange with local beef/ sheep farmer and now our land is getting much better condition. Our clay is horrid to plough and want to leave soil and not disturb it if possible and hopefully get to point where we can just DD it.
We are on Very heavy clay, wanting to short disc after harvest, spray for BG if needed, subsoil if needed, short disc again then drill. We had abused the land but now doing a straw for muck exchange with local beef/ sheep farmer and now our land is getting much better condition. Our clay is horrid to plough and want to leave soil and not disturb it if possible and hopefully get to point where we can just DD it.
ollie989898
Member
Kvernland Tined seeder. 6 metre working width, see if you can find one, will pull easily with 150hp. Will cover your acreage easy and let you pick and choose when to go. In wet years pay a contractor with a combi to do it.
- Location
- East Lincs
Well we drill about 150 acres/year with a MF500 and get on well with it. We are on heavy clay. Last autumn we were able to drill, where our neighbours with cultivator drills weren't. We do use the power harrow if needed, but it's nice not to have to as with a combi drill. If I had £8k to spend on a drill I'd find the best 4m MF500 that I could, replace all the discs, bearings and coulter pivots, convert it to seed only - then put the rest of the money in the bank.
If you did want to have the option of a single pass, then perhaps a power harrow with the drill on a bridge link?
If you did want to have the option of a single pass, then perhaps a power harrow with the drill on a bridge link?
Are 500s much better than 30s?
- Location
- northampton
3m Simba freeflow fantastic underrated drills cheap to buy and even cheaper to run great base to convert to direct drill
- Location
- East Lincs
I think so. There are quite a few upgrades - the main one which comes to mind is that the coulters are held in and out hydraulically (with a lockout valve I believe), rather than relying on a ram working against springs. The metering rollers etc. are different also.
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
Which one?
Horsch or claydon?
straight from plough and heavy tillage to low disturbance no till is a big step that most can’t cope with - it is possible on the right soils but probably means a few fails along the road
going via a strip cultivation system like claydon etc makes the transition easier really
A co when converted with points like VOS or dutch etc will do basically the same job direct as a claydon so suggested as it could be a cheaper route for you if budget is limited
only other tool i would have is a set of good heavy rolls
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