flyonthewall
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So is nobody going by NACC rates in the UK then?
You cannot run a baler for £2.50 bale and make moneyWe charge £2.50 to bale , £2.50 to wrap and charge plastic at cost per roll used .
Your probably right ...... I suppose if I were a contractor I would think different but my baler is predominantly just for my use and the little I do for anyone else would be more 'to help out' than to make money . Usually when I'm 'helping out ' it's some poky little patch that a contractor doesn't want to be bothered with and for that reason the cost would realistically be about £5 a bale ........but these little jobs are usually paid for in bar tokens !!You cannot run a baler for £2.50 bale and make money
Used to be able to get around 43 to 45 bales per roll out of Volac Enduro, 4 layers, 16 turns, you had to change the gears to a set that didn't drive as fast as the wrap was pre stretched at the factory (I seen it being made) it was quite handy with the twin spool only having to stop every 88 bales.Next time you open a bale cut a square out of the plastic and count the layers we have never had that number of bales out of a roll of plastic
So what figure have you come up with that you charge and can make money?You cannot run a baler for £2.50 bale and make money
The baler man will spend more time running from job to job, whilst the silage trailer is more likely to be all day in 1 place.So what figure have you come up with that you charge and can make money?
Let's say you bale 45 bales an hour.
45×2.50=£112.50/hr
Baler is £35k new plus tractor.
A silage trailer is 20k new plus tractor which you can get for £40/hr .
Can you not run a baler for the extra £72.50 an hour?
would think a trailer would last longerThe baler man will spend more time running from job to job, whilst the silage trailer is more likely to be all day in 1 place.
But I take your point.
And depreciate less, cost less to maintain.would think a trailer would last longer
And depreciate less, cost less to maintain.
Net wrap alone would be 50p/bale give or take so would be a cost of £22.50/hr out of the above figures.
It is that's very true .The baler man will spend more time running from job to job, whilst the silage trailer is more likely to be all day in 1 place.
But I take your point.
2017 welgar valued at £16000 done 14000 balesAnd depreciate less, cost less to maintain.
Net wrap alone would be 50p/bale give or take so would be a cost of £22.50/hr out of the above figures.
Quite possibly. I used to work on 50p before we went to a baler /wrapper.It is that's very true .
I put 45 bales an hour but of course in some job you can be up to nearly a bale a minute.
2017 welgar valued at £16000 done 14000 bales
Depreciation £1/bale?
Every baler I’ve had has been £1 per bale in depreciationBaler will do, what, 30k bales in a lifetime? Maybe a few more but not double. Let’s say 50p a bale in depreciation/ wear. That’s another £22.50/hr taken care of.
Doesn't that depend on the age of the machine?Every baler I’ve had has been £1 per bale in depreciation
That,s a very simplistic way of looking at it, i can,t bale straw with a trailer. I agree, you could earn more from a silage trailer but you would be in contractors cog running from dawn to dusk, that don,t interest me any more, would rather go and bale 200 bales somewhere and be home late afternoon. The problem here as normal is kit getting to expensive and us as farmers trying to justify the purchase cost. I know one chap who bought a new round baler over 7 years, that to me is crazy.So what figure have you come up with that you charge and can make money?
Let's say you bale 45 bales an hour.
45×2.50=£112.50/hr
Baler is £35k new plus tractor.
A silage trailer is 20k new plus tractor which you can get for £40/hr .
Can you not run a baler for the extra £72.50 an hour?
Yep, although there’s perhaps a bit of conflict between fixed and variable costs in these things.Every baler I’ve had has been £1 per bale in depreciation
seems to be “no”Can you not run a baler for the extra £72.50 an hour?