Lexion 600+

[Phil P]

yes put SN number in the Claas system & it will tell you every thing its had

I’ll look into it

 

[lexion780tt]

Can normally tell by the paint difference on them to original block.

Have a quick Google of how much a om502 la is there not cheap and hard to get hold of now.

If you bought it and had plenty of time you could take all the heads off get new valves put in and heads reconditioned it's not too bad as there 8 individual heads

If it has north of 2000hrs on and hadn't had hydros changed get them reconditioned as well.

They don't tend to just go pop nicely they fill the hole system full of metal claas used to make you change every motor pump rubber pipe and re seal
every ram.

 

[nxy]

Different combine I know but I think @nxy posted the other day that his combine had done 7k hrs

This is a UK based forum so people think about hours on combines based around a narrow window of harvesting generally autumn sown crops. Head to the warmer parts of europe and barley starts early in June and maize might finish in November or later with a variety of crops in between so putting big hours a year on a combine is not difficult. They often don't put in late nights and long days because if they did it for 6 months it would be tough going.

 

[super4]

Just be sure to have a backup plan if you loose the combine with a major breakdown. Sometimes you get breakdowns that just can't be planned for.

 

[JD6920s]

All this talk of heads and hydros sounds like a minefield of Russian roulette! Surely better the devil you know, especially after having done so much to yours and knowing it inside out.
A couple or three days extra harvesting time with yours this season will be better than a week of downtime on the 600 if it all goes pear shaped, and usually sod’s law has a way of making sure it does.
I’d wait till you find something newer, as newer models are more often than not an improvement so will be much more efficient.
I always think, the bigger the machine is, the more crop it has gorged through, so a 600 with 2000 hrs will have passed an eye watering tonnage through itself compared to say a 2000 hour smaller machine, so it all contributes to a lot of internal wear, no matter how tidy the outside is.
Stick with what you’ve got, just my opinion anyway.

 

[Foxcover]

As above. Better the devil you know for another year or two and save up for a newer one.
CR8.80 would be a good machine on that acreage if you weren’t bothered about colour.

 

[Magnus Oyke]

If you're giving the 560 a good work out, have you looked into into a new one beyond looking at the list price, pursing your lips and sucking your teeth?

You'd be able to pay for it over a number of years, with probably favourable finance and they'd be a warranty too.

I'd expect that most of the high capacity machines will have had their necks rung for their time with the first owner.

 

[s~~t shoveller]

We have a 600 2007 on 3000hrs.been fine so far.owned since 2400 hr .run two combines so not so critical if it does have a breakdown…worst we’ve had was main shaft from engine drive side through to other side .it was out of action two days total. repaired ourselves -collected parts from saxham and worked late to get going.claas parts availability is ace and that’s worth a lot in itself to someone like you I think.

 

[s~~t shoveller]

10.5 m .runs rings round it’s partner-a 7.5 m 480 for output

 

[Phil P]

If you're giving the 560 a good work out, have you looked into into a new one beyond looking at the list price, pursing your lips and sucking your teeth?

You'd be able to pay for it over a number of years, with probably favourable finance and they'd be a warranty too.

I'd expect that most of the high capacity machines will have had their necks rung for their time with the first owner.

Weighing up all the options but definitely won’t be a new one! Although there may be an ideal 7 coming for a demo.
I’m m in no real rush to do anything but always get a bit panicky in wet harvest

 

[Steevo]

Weighing up all the options but definitely won’t be a new one! Although there may be an ideal 7 coming for a demo.
I’m m in no real rush to do anything but always get a bit panicky in wet harvest

Olly has messed up the system by changing his machine so soon!

 

[Richard Smyth]

Olly has messed up the system by changing his machine so soon!

He’s started beating it up already don’t will be cheap soon enough

 

[Magnus Oyke]

Weighing up all the options but definitely won’t be a new one! Although there may be an ideal 7 coming for a demo.
I’m m in no real rush to do anything but always get a bit panicky in wet harvest

Surely a combine purchase isa long term view, rather than a short term knee jerk reaction on a harvest that hasn't really started yet?

Certainly get the Ideal on demo. My sauces told me the early ones were a pain in the arse, but the later machines have been sorted out and will run with a Lexion. Were you get make serious enquiries about the Ideal, the Claas salesman's pencil will be considerably sharper than any pencil has been before.... so another sauce told me...

 

[principal skinner]

Surely a combine purchase isa long term view, rather than a short term knee jerk reaction on a harvest that hasn't really started yet?

Certainly get the Ideal on demo. My sauces told me the early ones were a pain in the arse, but the later machines have been sorted out and will run with a Lexion. Were you get make serious enquiries about the Ideal, the Claas salesman's pencil will be considerably sharper than any pencil has been before.... so another sauce told me...

Are you using red or brown sauce?

 

[Magnus Oyke]

Are you using red or brown sauce?

reggae reggae

 

[Cruiser_79]

Is the Cat C13 engine in the 560 TT the only difference with a 550?
Don't have experience with Lexion 600's, there is only one running in our neighbourhood. Rotary combines aren't that common, mostly straw walkers. The farm where I worked once bought a used NH TX36 with 2500 hours, that was terrible. Lot of troubles with worn out elevators that were leaking, broken bearings, and broken shafts that costed an entire sieve box etc.
Friend of mine bought a JD with +- 2000 hours, lots of troubles with bearings, concave that was stuck, bearings and last week a few bearings from the walker crankshaft. Quite a mess...
So I hope I'll never have to maintain a used combine with more than 2000 hours, unless you bought or serviced it yourself

 

[Cruiser_79]

This is a UK based forum so people think about hours on combines based around a narrow window of harvesting generally autumn sown crops. Head to the warmer parts of europe and barley starts early in June and maize might finish in November or later with a variety of crops in between so putting big hours a year on a combine is not difficult. They often don't put in late nights and long days because if they did it for 6 months it would be tough going.

Over here there is only a bit of Rye grass and the rest is only winter wheat. Everything at the same time, so combines are only used at most 3 weeks a year. If you harvest more than 100 ha a year you are quite a big guy If i see used combines from other countries it's more likely to get 500-1000 ha/year it looks like...

 

[YELROM]

Would avoid a 600 with high hours threshing wise wouldn't worry every thing can be repaired easily.

They have a nasty habit of the hydrostat going bang normally fills the system up woth rubbish.The pump and motor are well north of 30k common problem on all 600.

They also run the om502 la v8 merq they for whatever reason like dropping valves which if the engine isn't a write off are very expensive to pit right.

If you run a 600 long enough one of these 2 things will happen.

Best combine for reliability and out put would be a early narrow bodied 760 nice and small good out put and reliable.

@lexion780tt I assume Claas foragers with the om502 la engine suffered from dropping valves aswell