McHale or Welger

[Hfd Cattle]

any advice .... benn offered a McHale f550 (2006 with 22000 bales ) and a Welger RP445 (2012 with 5000 bales ) which one ? ( money about the same )

 

[Kiwi Pete]

What will you mostly bale with it?

Either would be a cracking machine, FWIW the earlier McHales were largely based on the Welger.
The McHale maybe has an edge on greener sappier crops and the Welger on straw hay and drier stuff; but that's more "feeling" than fact.
I don't know what sort of dealerships you have, this can easily make up the difference between the better baler and "the better baling experience"

 

[TheEarlOfMoray]

If the same money you have to go with the welger. Done less than quarter the work and 6 years newer. No brainer.

 

[sticky]

For my penny's worth I vote welger. I have a 2008 rp435, had it from new, it still does a very good,tidy tight bale and takes everything in its stride. For instance this morning 30ft into one 8 bales to the acre 106 bales in 1hr 10 mins.
I have stopped doing my two neighbors this year because of time restraints and other commitments and they have gone to the local contractor who runs McHales and talking to one of them yesterday he said my baler did a better bale.

 

[sticky]

By the way 5000 bales doesn't seem very many for that age of baler.

 

[e3120]

Not that the brand isn't worthy of discussion, but you've been offered a fixed and a variable baler. First question is what suits your needs. Fixed for mainly silage/haylage, variable for mainly hay/straw imo. If you ever see a need for >4ft bales, then variable it is.

 

[KB6930]

The McHale is a fixed chamber versus the welger being a belt baler so in the welger you're getting a more versatile machine .

At 2012 check if it's a camless pickup as the early ones weren't great my

 

[J 1177]

445 Welger, iv got one goes like stink, seems to like the tamma net a lot better than others mind

 

[bluewurzel]

Used to have welger, spares eye watering . Now have mc hale last 8 years and not had to spend much at all.

 

[Razorready]

Ive changed from welger this time was always a massive welger fan went for mchale f5500 wish id bought one years ago they are streets ahead in build quality to the latter welgers. Not sure the difference between the 550 and 5500 though

 

[Scribus]

Not that the brand isn't worthy of discussion, but you've been offered a fixed and a variable baler. First question is what suits your needs. Fixed for mainly silage/haylage, variable for mainly hay/straw imo. If you ever see a need for >4ft bales, then variable it is.

Variable chamber has always struck me as the best way of baling anything, why do you believe the fixed chamber to be better for silage?

Genuine question BTW.

 

[e3120]

Variable chamber has always struck me as the best way of baling anything, why do you believe the fixed chamber to be better for silage?

Genuine question BTW.

I understood that a roller can better cope with horrible wet short stuff, but have only ever run a variable and do my damnedest to get silage half dry.

 

[Scribus]

I understood that a roller can better cope with horrible wet short stuff, but have only ever run a variable and do my damnedest to get silage half dry.

At Grass and Muck a few years back there was a baling demo and although it is difficult to judge these things exactly it was a NH variable chamber that was kicking out the tightest bales, a telehandler was running around picking them up afterwards and they didn't sag an inch, unlike........

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Thanks all for advice .... opted for the Welger for following reasons, variable bale size , lower bale count and only £1500 more .
Reason for very low bale count was the first owner was killed in a car accident and hadnt made a will and so all the farm machinery was sat doing nothing for nearly three yrs while solicitors sorted affairs out ....a small lesson to us all to get things sorted out !

 

[wdah/him]

Ive changed from welger this time was always a massive welger fan went for mchale f5500 wish id bought one years ago they are streets ahead in build quality to the latter welgers. Not sure the difference between the 550 and 5500 though

what problems do you have, thinking of buying a 2013 5500 with 32000 bales, im a krone fan really but don't really see the 155xc being my baler next, have my reasons.

best of luck with the choice of welger

 

[Razorready]

what problems do you have, thinking of buying a 2013 5500 with 32000 bales, im a krone fan really but don't really see the 155xc being my baler next, have my reasons.

best of luck with the choice of welger

Sorry just seen this now. I havnt had any problems with it made 7000 bales last season without a issue. There a fantastic baler and a fantastic company

 

[wdah/him]

Sorry just seen this now. I havnt had any problems with it made 7000 bales last season without a issue. There a fantastic baler and a fantastic company

I bought the one I had on trial, not totally happy with the chopping of the bales, but then everyone else I talk too seem to say the same that they chop but not as good as the others, the older roundpack and apparently the comprima are miles ahead. im putting in a new set of knives next year and that's about all I can do. still a very good baler.

 

[Razorready]

I bought the one I had on trial, not totally happy with the chopping of the bales, but then everyone else I talk too seem to say the same that they chop but not as good as the others, the older roundpack and apparently the comprima are miles ahead. im putting in a new set of knives next year and that's about all I can do. still a very good baler.

Admittedly i did notice they wernt as well chopped as my welger the welger had 17 knifes and the 5500 15. Q

 

[daveydiesel1]

What is the problem with belted balers for silage as they make a tighter bale and would ther not be less problems with bearings as ther is less o them

 

[Razorready]

What is the problem with belted balers for silage as they make a tighter bale and would ther not be less problems with bearings as ther is less o them

A belt baler is for straw & hay really yes you can bale wet grass woth them but most dont like it. Hence fixed chamber balers for grass