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New 10ft mounted mower conditioner?

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Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Catching up with contemporary designs. Very beneficial when working with rear mounted mowers but so many of those users are going triple these days. There will be further developments from competitors in this segment within the next 3/5 years though.
 

zyklon

Member
Livestock Farmer
Looking to purchase our first fold up 10ft mower to our fleet of trailed mowers. Speaking to numerous people, everyone is telling us not to get a conditioner. Complete waste of time. Great years ago for those lifting 10ft rows but people say I would be an idiot to pay extra for a conditioner. What’s your views?
 

BIG PACK

Member
Location
north yorkshire
Looking to purchase our first fold up 10ft mower to our fleet of trailed mowers. Speaking to numerous people, everyone is telling us not to get a conditioner. Complete waste of time. Great years ago for those lifting 10ft rows but people say I would be an idiot to pay extra for a conditioner. What’s your views?
Get a conditioner . I find when baling for customers that mow there own grass with a mower that hasn’t got a conditioner it’s a right pig to rake up and make a good clean job . But grass cut with our mower conditioner rakes up lovely and clean . It’s like the conditioner lifts it abit off the floor and stops it sticking to the deck . Most of the time we just run our conditioner at the minimum agresivness setting just to fluff the grass up abit , but if the weather against us we sick the conditioner plate in abit more to get a rapider wilt .
 

Spear

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Devon
Switched from the 10’6 krone mounted moco to Kuhn 10’ trailed moco and output is up 2-3acres/hr. Lose to much time turning on headlands with mounted mower. As said the Krone is very heavy. Linkage breaking heavy unless you have a very strong back end.
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Huntingdon, UK
If you tedd straight after the mower no need for a conditioner, if you don't you are better with one.

Not true. A well designed and set conditioner will bruise the cuticle and encourage drying, no matter how quickly you ted afterwards. A well set spreader hood on the conditioner will alleviate the need for that tedder pass straight after mowing, then you don’t need many acres before that saving had more than paid for the conditioner.
 

Optimus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North of Perth
Get a conditioner . I find when baling for customers that mow there own grass with a mower that hasn’t got a conditioner it’s a right pig to rake up and make a good clean job . But grass cut with our mower conditioner rakes up lovely and clean . It’s like the conditioner lifts it abit off the floor and stops it sticking to the deck . Most of the time we just run our conditioner at the minimum agresivness setting just to fluff the grass up abit , but if the weather against us we sick the conditioner plate in abit more to get a rapider wilt .
Found the same thing here.bought one without but soon swapped it for one with conditioner
 

Sharpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Not true. A well designed and set conditioner will bruise the cuticle and encourage drying, no matter how quickly you ted afterwards. A well set spreader hood on the conditioner will alleviate the need for that tedder pass straight after mowing, then you don’t need many acres before that saving had more than paid for the conditioner.
Yes, but many ted right behind the mowers, we dont, we don'tneed to because we, like you, run on max conditioning, with a reasonable forward speed to allow it to do its job.
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Huntingdon, UK
Yes, but many ted right behind the mowers, we dont, we don'tneed to because we, like you, run on max conditioning, with a reasonable forward speed to allow it to do its job.

Tedding straight behind the mowers is a false economy. NAAC say £16/ha for tedding so even if you say £10/ha cost price over 5 years of owning the mower, you don’t have to do many acres before it’s cheaper to run a conditioner.
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
As others have said on here and I think those in favour of a conditioner are the hay and haylage making gang. In my experience hay making can be at least 24 hours faster with a moco’. Dairy cow silage doesn’t need to be as dry say around 30% DM so plain mower and tedding (as long as the weather is warm with a breeze) can be achieved. I think many converted to plain mowers to save diesel and also go wider with the same horsepower. Our 10m triple can be driven with the same size tractor or a bit less than our 9.0m triple moco’. Choice is yours. If I’m wrong with my assumptions/views @Andrew will be along shortly to correct me.
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Im was thinking of changing my 313 kuhn but cant this year but i would be looking at the mchale when i do i have had a good look at the rear mower and they look strong well built machines. My mate bought a front one last year and its a very impressive machine
 

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
Im was thinking of changing my 313 kuhn but cant this year but i would be looking at the mchale when i do i have had a good look at the rear mower and they look strong well built machines. My mate bought a front one last year and its a very impressive machine
Customer of ours bought front back mchales and has given plenty o bother
 

KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
Im was thinking of changing my 313 kuhn but cant this year but i would be looking at the mchale when i do i have had a good look at the rear mower and they look strong well built machines. My mate bought a front one last year and its a very impressive machine
There's been a few McHale sold round here but also a few been changed for other breeds already
 
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