No Deal Brexit

[wanton dwarf]

New bi-lateral agreements can not be negotiated in minutes. These kind of negotiations take years, sometimes decades, meanwhile our economy will contract, jobs will be lost and our currency will crash.

When the UK is already in about 40 agreements via the EU, of course before the EU the UK was in various deals all over the world.

So none of those agreements are new.

 

[wanton dwarf]

It is the Brexit at any cost brigade that don’t get it. Companies don’t more production because they are companies. Companies move production because it is what is in the best interests of their share holders. New tariff barriers radically change the equation. A no deal means no deal, that means WTO tariffs on goods crossing the channel. That is not the EU “playing silly buggers” that is just the reality of leaving with no deal.

Quite correct.

Perhaps companies should consider their moral guidance before treating a population as trash.

Trump has pretty much redefined the relationship with the Globalists.

Sending jobs abroad will lead to poor consequences .. and about time too.

You reap what you sow.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Do you know what the average wto tariff actually is ? Look it up you will be very surprised.

I think it's less than 2% ? something like that.

Highest tariffs are on food, simply because any nation state needs to ensure that it's local food supply is pretty much guaranteed - stops a nation state from being held to ransom or blackmailed.

 

[bobk]

We apparently love Belgium chocolate , where does the milk come from ? yes here .

 

[rob1]

I think it's less than 2% ? something like that.

Highest tariffs are on food, simply because any nation state needs to ensure that it's local food supply is pretty much guaranteed - stops a nation state from being held to ransom or blackmailed.

From research i did it was 3 or 4 but its funny how no remainers seem to know that or want to admit it, the saving from the lower pound far outweigh them

 

[farmerm]

When the UK is already in about 40 agreements via the EU, of course before the EU the UK was in various deals all over the world.

So none of those agreements are new.

Which is all well and good if those 40 countries are happy to sign us up new agreements on the existing terms on March 30th, but it’s never that simple when it comes to trade negotiations...

 

[wanton dwarf]

Which is all well and good if those 40 countries are happy to sign us up new agreements on the existing terms on March 30th, but it’s never that simple when it comes to trade negotiations...

As I've pointed out .. they are CURRENT agreements .. physically being used yesterday, today and tomorrow.

If they were good in all those events .. why are you stating they are "New" ?

 

[bobk]

Which is all well and good if those 40 countries are happy to sign us up new agreements on the existing terms on March 30th, but it’s never that simple when it comes to trade negotiations...

EU have said nothing will change for 9 months , what's the panic ?

 

[wanton dwarf]

EU have said nothing will change for 9 months , what's the panic ?

As far as I understand if Parliament takes certain steps .. it extends to 10 years.

 

[farmerm]

We apparently love Belgium chocolate , where does the milk come from ? yes here .

35% tariffs on dairy poducts into the EU...

 

[wanton dwarf]

From research i did it was 3 or 4 but its funny how no remainers seem to know that or want to admit it, the saving from the lower pound far outweigh them

Yeah the average non agricultural tariff is 2.6%

 

[wanton dwarf]

35% tariffs on dairy poducts into the EU...

Works the same in reverse. BTW when milk prices were at their lowest .. Belgium was importing milk INTO the UK.

 

[bobk]

35% tariffs on dairy poducts into the EU...

Good , where else are they getting it from ?

 

[farmerm]

As I've pointed out .. they are CURRENT agreements .. physically being used yesterday, today and tomorrow.

If they were good in all those events .. why are you stating they are "New" ?

Because those agreements are with the EU not with the UK. They would not automatically apply by magic, new legal papers and signatures are required and many of those trading countries may have different trade balances with the UK than they have with the EU, they may want to negotiate different terms.

 

[farmerm]

Works the same in reverse. BTW when milk prices were at their lowest .. Belgium was importing milk INTO the UK.

Yes EU milk trade is tariff free, but in future we won’t be in the EU...

 

[wanton dwarf]

Because those agreements are with the EU not with the UK. They would not automatically apply by magic, new legal papers and signatures are required and many of those trading countries may have different trade balances with the UK than they have with the EU, they may want to negotiate different terms.

Oh I see .. it makes a difference that it's the EU and according to you everything changes.

No they won't apply by magic .. it'll take someone to rubber stamp it through because it's worthwhile for both parties to carry on as we did before rather than make a complete fool of themselves.

They may well want some small changes .. but most likely given the strength of the UK economy anything related to the UK would have been a major factor in the agreement.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Yes EU milk trade is tariff free, but in future we won’t be in the EU...

Oh right it was okay for Belgium to import milk into the UK while UK prices were on the floor .. no thanks.

 

[bobk]

Yes EU milk trade is tariff free, but in future we won’t be in the EU...

Why sell a lot for fa , when you can sell a little for a lot .

 

[caveman]

Yes EU milk trade is tariff free, but in future we won’t be in the EU...

Pray tell.
Are we self sufficient in milk?

 

[rob1]

Yes EU milk trade is tariff free, but in future we won’t be in the EU...

If we go wto the one sector of farming that will benefit is dairy. I note you havent yet looked up average tariffs over every sector