No Deal Brexit

You didn’t hear it “from a country”, you read it from me, and I didn’t vote in the SNP - as I’ve written many times, this world needs fewer barriers, not more.


The whole world has spent 1000s of years creating barriers and borders to keep those that want to do harm out.

What is it about modern people that think the world is somehow safer and borders not necessary .. when you've just had years of wars to stop ISIS .. who chop people's heads and hands off ?

The very same people lived in the UK.

Whatever is facilitating this culture of criminal behaviour needs to be stopped dead.
 
This lack of representative democracy is a root cause of this divide, however both Tory and Labour supporters on here need to understand that the EU referendum was the last you will ever see, no political party will allow tgis to happen again.


It all depends on the next general election.

If the public really are stupid they'll vote in the two muppets again.

Time they were sent packing.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
It all depends on the next general election.

If the public really are stupid they'll vote in the two muppets again.

Time they were sent packing.
It's going to be an interesting one.

I get the feeling that Mrs May knows full well that project fear is BS and that the only hope for the Tory party is no deal which will lead to no disaster as the usual suspects have predicted (having already been wrong last time) and a new leader, more in tune with the ERG. This Indy gang will have to hook up with or absorb the Lib Dems and may have some limited effect but if Labour keeps up it's current game, it's dead in the water.

What I don't get about the Indy gang is that they have left and right in there already. It may be a poor protest against Brexit but how is this new potential party going to find common ground? Are they all really 'centre' enough and actually, does the UK population want a centre party any more?
 

Yacker

Member
Wanton we have discussed this many times, the Tory heartlands will always put up the candidate of "choice" it will require a civil war to change our political system and you and i both know thats not happening.
 

Yacker

Member
The next GE will yield the same result as the last one +/- 5%.

The same type of person on the Tory side will be re-elected and Momentum will oust many Labour MPs and further the demise of sensible socialism.
 

Ashtree

Member
Both of you should be ashamed of making cheap unwarranted comments.

Enoch Powell was one of the most intelligent and caring politicians. It was he who, as Minister for Health, brought the treatment of Mental Health Illnesses into mainstream hospitals, and as a result he effected the closure of many of the specialist ''loony bins'' and helped remove the stigma of mental illness.

Sad to say, his warnings about uncontrolled immigration and the divisive effect of their non-integration into British society went unheeded.

It is obvious that neither of you are farmers, because if you were you would have far more tolerant views.

Well, well, well. He may well have done good in charge of mental health.
Nevertheless, he was the original Tommy Robinson, albeit educated and no doubt highly intelligent. A thug who could quote Greek classics is still a thug.
After his poisonous, racist, xenophobic rivers of blood speech, he had no choice other than leave English politics. He needed a concentrated constituency of like minded individuals, which he found in the unionists in NI. They kept him in the forefront of politics for years, and further fostered his poisonous politics.
The sheer utter gall of this man, to speak of other people’s, cultures and races like he did, particularly as all of their countries, cultures and people’s had been, the subject of brutal white British imperial terrorism for a hundreds of years.

I have no tolerance for him, his views or his politics.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
Well, well, well. He may well have done good in charge of mental health.
Nevertheless, he was the original Tommy Robinson, albeit educated and no doubt highly intelligent. A thug who could quote Greek classics is still a thug.
After his poisonous, racist, xenophobic rivers of blood speech, he had no choice other than leave English politics. He needed a concentrated constituency of like minded individuals, which he found in the unionists in NI. They kept him in the forefront of politics for years, and further fostered his poisonous politics.
The sheer utter gall of this man, to speak of other people’s, cultures and races like he did, particularly as all of their countries, cultures and people’s had been, the subject of brutal white British imperial terrorism for a hundreds of years.

I have no tolerance for him, his views or his politics.
Oh the irony of a racist and bigot who calls another persons view racist and posionous.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
You either haven’t read or understood his rivers of blood speech, OR, you do not know the meaning of racism. Full stop!!!
I have read it on more than one occassion thanks, perhaps you need to live on a street where you live in fear, it matters not what colour you are, fear is fear, we live in times where free speech is shouted down by claims of it being an ism of some sort, radical minorities demand to rule the roost over the silent majority. his speech was a warning want might well happen if those fears are ignored.
I have no truck with people who hate or discriminate against others. That is very different from protecting your way of life, perhaps you need to witness a few things first hand you might understand what drives people
 

6910 Buzz

Member
Use remainers is all thick no deal the best thing that could ever happen and I live on the border NI use need to catch a grip remain is only for hitler loving wankss go live in Greece or Germany use will get ur eyes opened
 

manhill

Member
I didn't particularly like Powell but looking at the ethnicity of victims and perpetrators of recent knife crimes makes me think there's an element of truth in his rivers of blood speech.
Someone's going to respond about Glasgow razor gangs now. I can feel it coming!
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
I would imagine that the vast majority of people in the RoI would sooner burn in hell, than be part of the UK again.

In the west yes, in the east not so much.

I still think Ireland should see this as an opportunity rather than a problem, establish itself along the lines from a freeport zone and make a pile. Brussels would hate it though, and whatever Brussels says is gospel as far as the Irish government is concerned.
 

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