No Deal Brexit

[Christoph1945]

I suppose that we are, at the moment, rather like the Jews as they were in the act of fleeing Egypt but I wonder if we are going to be forty years in the wilderness before we arrive at BoJo's promised land and how many of the Brexiteers will continually and longingly be looking over their shoulders for the opportunities that have been thrown away.

 

[czechmate]

I suppose that we are, at the moment, rather like the Jews as they were in the act of fleeing Egypt but I wonder if we are going to be forty years in the wilderness before we arrive at BoJo's promised land and how many of the Brexiteers will continually and longingly be looking over their shoulders for the opportunities that have been thrown away.

Weren’t they worshiping false gods or some such?
That sounds a bit familier too.

 

[Courier]

I suppose that we are, at the moment, rather like the Jews as they were in the act of fleeing Egypt but I wonder if we are going to be forty years in the wilderness before we arrive at BoJo's promised land and how many of the Brexiteers will continually and longingly be looking over their shoulders for the opportunities that have been thrown away.

Rees-Mogg quoted 50 years ...

 

[Christoph1945]

Weren’t they worshiping false gods or some such?
That sounds a bit familier too.

You forgot the Egyptian male prostitutes with willies like donkeys; or was it members like asses?

 

[Christoph1945]

Rees-Mogg quoted 50 years ...

Jeez ........ I will be 125; 75 short of the Post Diluvium restriction imposed by the divine!

 

[linga]

Rees-Mogg quoted 50 years ...

From memory he didnt say "will take fifty years " but "over the next fifty years" which is subtly different.
Anyway are we not always criticising our politicians for short termism?

 

[Hindsight]

From memory he didnt say "will take fifty years " but "over the next fifty years" which is subtly different.
Anyway are we not always criticising our politicians for short termism?

Can hardly criticise the Right Honourable member for the 18th Century, or was it 17th Century for short termism, surely JRM takes the Long view.

 

[Ashtree]

British sheep men, won’t have to worry about tariffs. Boris will sign where Barnier has already printed his name, and there will be a free trade U turn. That’s pretty much the 99.999% likelihood at this point. Politically humiliating of course, but hey sheep farmers lambing in the middle of the night, won’t be arsed about the political classes.

The downside going forward for the sheep men, is of course increased costs, delays and paperwork in getting the product into French dinner plates.
Frog ain’t gonna pay that cost. Larry sure as hell ain’t gonna pay that cost!

 

[lloyd]

If I were an Irish beef producer I'd be getting into sheep, thd French and going to be looking for lamb soon

Might be good opportunities to export lamb from Scotland too
after the next referendum vote.
If I was an English sheep farmer I would be getting into beef if Scotland
voted to become independant.

 

[jendan]

British sheep men, won’t have to worry about tariffs. Boris will sign where Barnier has already printed his name, and there will be a free trade U turn. That’s pretty much the 99.999% likelihood at this point. Politically humiliating of course, but hey sheep farmers lambing in the middle of the night, won’t be arsed about the political classes.

The downside going forward for the sheep men, is of course increased costs, delays and paperwork in getting the product into French dinner plates.
Frog ain’t gonna pay that cost. Larry sure as hell ain’t gonna pay that cost!

I always thought that there would be some U turn,or cobbled together deal at the last minute. After seeing Johnson today,i think that there is not going to be one.Its going to be WTO. It doesnt matter how long they talk now,it will make no difference.The hard line Brexiters are going to get what they wanted,and many millions will suffer economic hardship.

 

[czechmate]

I always thought that there would be some U turn,or cobbled together deal at the last minute. After seeing Johnson today,i think that there is not going to be one.Its going to be WTO. It doesnt matter how long they talk now,it will make no difference.The hard line Brexiters are going to get what they wanted,and many millions will suffer economic hardship.

Makes you wonder why Danllan isn’t over the moon with joy?

 

[Top Tip.]

I always thought that there would be some U turn,or cobbled together deal at the last minute. After seeing Johnson today,i think that there is not going to be one.Its going to be WTO. It doesnt matter how long they talk now,it will make no difference.The hard line Brexiters are going to get what they wanted,and many millions will suffer economic hardship.

The sad thing is that those who are negotiating on our behalf will still get their wages at the end of the month. They won’t suffer the financial consequences of their actions.

 

[lloyd]

Makes you wonder why Danllan isn’t over the moon with joy?

Perhaps his cattle have got out and it's his workmans day off.

 

[Danllan]

Makes you wonder why Danllan isn’t over the moon with joy?

Very sad if there is to be no deal, very happy if there is to be no compromise on sovereignty - these are not mutually exclusive.

Perhaps his cattle have got out and it's his workmans day off.

Cattle all in, and very glad about it, it's absolutely p!ssing down here.

 

[Christoph1945]

Perhaps his cattle have got out and it's his workmans day off.

Could be depressed 'perhaps', take care.

 

[Christoph1945]

Oops, appears not!

 

[Ashtree]

Sovereignty is lost already, with the surrender of NI to Eurocrats. Time to move past that little drama.

 

[WRXppp]

British sheep men, won’t have to worry about tariffs. Boris will sign where Barnier has already printed his name, and there will be a free trade U turn. That’s pretty much the 99.999% likelihood at this point. Politically humiliating of course, but hey sheep farmers lambing in the middle of the night, won’t be arsed about the political classes.

The downside going forward for the sheep men, is of course increased costs, delays and paperwork in getting the product into French dinner plates.
Frog ain’t gonna pay that cost. Larry sure as hell ain’t gonna pay that cost!

While the price difference between Uk and French lamb stays as it is at the moment then the incentive for people to trade sheepmeat over to France will remain even with the extra hassle, with a tariff the trade is stone dead.

 

[som farmer]

I always thought that there would be some U turn,or cobbled together deal at the last minute. After seeing Johnson today,i think that there is not going to be one.Its going to be WTO. It doesnt matter how long they talk now,it will make no difference.The hard line Brexiters are going to get what they wanted,and many millions will suffer economic hardship.

that is an assumption, we do not yet know, what life will be like after brexit, because it hasn't happened. That is not to say you are wrong, many people hold that view. It might be wonderful, and many people hold that view, the truth is, we are taking a massive step into the unknown, and it's scary. For 50 yrs we have had the EU sat, on our shoulders, guiding, protecting our interests, or interests they deem to be correct. It is going to happen, or not, and it is up to all of us, to make the most of it, after all, there is nothing we can do to alter it.

 

[Highland Mule]

It is going to happen, or not, and it is up to all of us, to make the most of it, after all, there is nothing we can do to alter it.

agree with all your post, but to add - that for us to still not know on the 13th December is unacceptable. Businesses need to make investment decisions, hauliers need to arrange contracts and staffing rotas and they can’t do so with any certainty. This is just too late.