Soil washed away from thunderstorm

[7610 super q]

I sympathise with this - lots of keyboard warriors like me telling the OP that they have stuffed up when all they wanted was constructive suggestions as to how to fix it (which I posted earlier). However...



The OP took a risk by cultivating high erosion risk soil in a high rainfall area at what is normally a low risk time of year to do this. Without taking a risk you get nothing done but here we are, with a field with the best topsoil gone. I stand by my post. If you don't take any responsibility you don't learn from it. That is all.

I rarely start threads on here anymore, just not worth the agro. Hindsight is a marvelous thing. For all we know, 50 years ago that 35 acre field might have been split into 7 x 5 acre fields with hedgebanks for a reason. As has been said in the thread, re seeding at that time should have been better than doing it in late autumn before the monsoon season. It would have been nice to have a thread with helpful advice without the " Fu"king amateur " type posts, but hey-ho.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I sympathise with this - lots of keyboard warriors like me telling the OP that they have stuffed up when all they wanted was constructive suggestions as to how to fix it (which I posted earlier). However...



The OP took a risk by cultivating high erosion risk soil in a high rainfall area at what is normally a low risk time of year to do this. Without taking a risk you get nothing done but here we are, with a field with the best topsoil gone. I stand by my post. If you don't take any responsibility you don't learn from it. That is all.

He took what nearly everyone would consider to be a perfectly reasonable risk [many would not even consider it a risk]. It was due to an extraordinary rainfall event and a blocked pipe below a neighbouring field.
It was a mistake in that the OP wishes it hadn't happened but the decision to cultivate was entirely reasonable.
I would like to thank them for posting this thread [ I hope they don't regret it] as I have found it very helpful although I'm afraid I have no help/ advice to offer.

 

[kiwi pom]

What we need here is some of these

 

[renewablejohn]

Really cannot see a problem. Just think outside the box you now have a golden oppurtunity to set up a turf cutting busines.

 

[ajd132]

I sympathise with this - lots of keyboard warriors like me telling the OP that they have stuffed up when all they wanted was constructive suggestions as to how to fix it (which I posted earlier). However...



The OP took a risk by cultivating high erosion risk soil in a high rainfall area at what is normally a low risk time of year to do this. Without taking a risk you get nothing done but here we are, with a field with the best topsoil gone. I stand by my post. If you don't take any responsibility you don't learn from it. That is all.

Well said, it’s good the OP is asking for advice rather than being in denial.
There is a problem in U.K. agriculture of owning ones problems. A book by Jim Collins called ‘good to great’ completely changed how I view my actions and problems, for the better. Can’t always blame hindsight for everything!

 

[tepapa]

I feel sorry for all the arable farmers that continue to plough. If the OP gets clobbered for seeding in mid summer then surely there is no hope for autumn cultivations.

 

[Scholsey]

I feel sorry for all the arable farmers that continue to plough. If the OP gets clobbered for seeding in mid summer then surely there is no hope for autumn cultivations.

And I hope the militant no tillers don’t eat potatoes!

 

[Wombat]

He took what nearly everyone would consider to be a perfectly reasonable risk [many would not even consider it a risk]. It was due to an extraordinary rainfall event and a blocked pipe below a neighbouring field.
It was a mistake in that the OP wishes it hadn't happened but the decision to cultivate was entirely reasonable.
I would like to thank them for posting this thread [ I hope they don't regret it] as I have found it very helpful although I'm afraid I have no help/ advice to offer.

I would never have put a thread like this on here. Would have been better putting on mumsnet would have been less judgmental and more constructive

 

[Kiwi Pete]

What we need here is some of these

These shift an awful lot of material very very effectively too KP

 

[Big_D]

Well said, it’s good the OP is asking for advice rather than being in denial.
There is a problem in U.K. agriculture of owning ones problems. A book by Jim Collins called ‘good to great’ completely changed how I view my actions and problems, for the better. Can’t always blame hindsight for everything!

Good book that

 

[rhifsaith]

How did you get on with this field Jdm?

 

[Lofty1984]

How did you get on with this field Jdm?

Prob rather not say judging from some comments on here ?

 

[RushesToo]

It was a hell of a job to tackle. Did you find time to start?

 

[rhifsaith]

Prob rather not say judging from some comments on here ?

That‘s very true unfortunately lofty. Bloo dy know it all’s

 

[holywell farmer]

What we need here is some of these

Huge scale operation that looks.

 

[RushesToo]

Prob rather not say judging from some comments on here ?

I thought it very generous of @Jdm1 to share his experience and pain. He was honest and open and in a pickle and I wanted it to get sorted - instead it got ugly. That was unnecessary and unhelpful.

 

[Muddyroads]

If it’s any help to the OP, I’ve seen a local outdoor pig unit use a D7 for 2-3 days every 2 years to push the top soil back up the hill that it had washed off. They did it on a number of occasions.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Even an old swing shovel is a very useful resident on any farm. One or 2 traillers and do a a bit / area at a time when other work allows.....and spin some grasseed on it as it's done and levelled. Also get some grass cover on all of the field asap to help prevent any further movement .
Ive known farmers move soil from bottom to top of fields before with modern kit it's not impossible.

Got to have patience with farming , if it goes wrong as it does often times, even for the best of land managers..
.. best just to accept it not let it pull you down for any length of time ...... that's what I do anyway, especially as I've got older...



Oops I've mentioned grass seed ......??