Tomorrow.. 14 Feb 7.30 pm panorama

[startinghandle]

The true cost of milk... probably another one sided story

 

[Keep On]

Whatever drivel they produce matters little when the commodity markets/ demand can’t be satisfied at present. Best not watched, keep your head down and carry on

 

[betweenthelines]

I think the vast majority of the public are getting fed up with being preached at.


Also, how much extra would people pay for milk from "happy" cows?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I hope they point out the shares of the retail value. In my view the true cost of milk production is borne entirely by the producer, while the rest of the supply chain cream off the profits. Sorry, couldn't help it.

 

[Bald Rick]

BBC One - Panorama, A Cow's Life: The True Cost of Milk?

Is animal welfare being compromised in the drive to keep milk prices low?

www.bbc.co.uk

Asks whether cheap milk is compromising welfare … and shows obligatory abuse by farmworkers

FFS

 

[vantage]

Couldn’t they stretch it out to an hour?

 

[Scholsey]

what’s the chances of something positive coming out of this program?

Sounds like they are talking to vets and farmers on it, hopefully they aren’t of the usual countryfilesque calibre.

 

[Sandpit Farm]

I am afraid there is unlikely to be much positive about this panorama program. The 'cost' they are talking about is not a financial one. It will be heavily spun. Best thing you could do its not watch it

 

[TheRanger]

I am afraid there is unlikely to be much positive about this panorama program. The 'cost' they are talking about is not a financial one. It will be heavily spun. Best thing you could do its not watch it

Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I am afraid there is unlikely to be much positive about this panorama program. The 'cost' they are talking about is not a financial one. It will be heavily spun. Best thing you could do its not watch it

Don't put your head in the sand.

 

[Scholsey]

Every milk company should bang 5ppl on every milk contract they have and blame the BBC.

 

[Beef farmer]

Freshways....pay peanuts get monkeys

 

[frederick]

Ultimately it was a lot more balanced than it could have been. It was made fairly clear how great economic pressures were. And if you want different it has to be paid for.

Trouble is we are all tarred by the lowest common denominator.

 

[Scholsey]

Missed the first 15 mins but what I saw could have been a lot worse.

 

[Beef farmer]

Tipping calves out of the bucket is unacceptable and just staff not giving a fu**

 

[frederick]

Tipping calves out of the bucket is unacceptable and just staff not giving a fu**

That was awful to watch but it wasn't staffs fault. That has to go all the way back to the top and the ethos of the farm that the staff pick up on.

 

[Headless chicken]

I know the farm and farmer in question.

disappointing treatment of calves and hitting of cows with spades etc .

sadly I suspect that an element of this is when you have a heavy reliance on Eastern European staff with little Trainning this is the result.

shame on the “ethical dairy” representation of the rest of the dairy industry especially when the herd manager said they’d cry for days! We spent hours looking round the shed trying to work out who calved because ours have zero interest once the calf is licked clean. Was there also not huge grants that he received and crowd funding to make him “profitable”?

 

[jerseycowsman]

Freshways....pay peanuts get monkeys

That is basically what the program insinuated.

 

[jerseycowsman]

I know the farm and farmer in question.

disappointing treatment of calves and hitting of cows with spades etc .

sadly I suspect that an element of this is when you have a heavy reliance on Eastern European staff with little Trainning this is the result.

shame on the “ethical dairy” representation of the rest of the dairy industry especially when the herd manager said they’d cry for days! We spent hours looking round the shed trying to work out who calved because ours have zero interest once the calf is licked clean. Was there also not huge grants that he received and crowd funding to make him “profitable”?

The stroker was there moaning about cows and calves “crying” for days. Meanwhile, in the background, all you could hear was cows and calves balling! Didn’t hear any of that on the other farms. Plus they had an adult cow with fffing horns!

 

[kill]

The stroker was there moaning about cows and calves “crying” for days. Meanwhile, in the background, all you could hear was cows and calves balling! Didn’t hear any of that on the other farms. Plus they had an adult cow with fffing horns!

Exactly and I would bet with the amount of cross suckling he has a massive Johnes problem that will be almost impossible to get on top of.