What do Red Tractor do for their money?

Average farm business surely pays them £300-500 a year.

Can any of their acolytes tell me what they do for their money?

Apart from employee's like Guy Smith wanting a "fresh pair of eyes" on his business (albeit unqualified to advise on health and safety and legal aspects) what does everyone get for their money? Seriously now
Nothing. It’s a privately owned fraudulent organisation that has positioned itself between farmer and buyer whilst lying to obtain money from its members who are forced to pay to access a market that subsequently allows inferior imported food to be mixed with U.K. produced food. In other words a total con.
 

simon w

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Hayling Island
Nothing. It’s a privately owned fraudulent organisation that has positioned itself between farmer and buyer whilst lying to obtain money from its members who are forced to pay to access a market that subsequently allows inferior imported food to be mixed with U.K. produced food. In other words a total con.
Agree a total con plus a pack of lies.
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
Nothing. It’s a privately owned fraudulent organisation that has positioned itself between farmer and buyer whilst lying to obtain money from its members who are forced to pay to access a market that subsequently allows inferior imported food to be mixed with U.K. produced food. In other words a total con.
100% correct on all accounts
we were promised a few quid extra per every ton sold huh thats never happened.
Now if your not Assured very few places will deal with you
My very good local grain coop has no outlets for non assured grain
There hands are tied just the same
 
No need to replace, it doesn't do anything for farmers who pay for it.

There is no such scheme or anything like it for overseas grain which is freely imported and traded once it gets here, which proves the point that it's an expensive con.
Supermarkets will demand it or worse still have competing schemes with ever more ridiculous rules.naive to think anything else
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
hand on heart who else can fill in 90% of all req paperwork the few days before your annual inspection.
All Grain leaving here is physically in no different condition before any sort of Grain Assurance was enforced on it or then after.
Thats the biggest con of it all.
We have to pay to be in the (Oh your Doing it Correctly Club)
Yes i ffffiiin know thats why i farm
 

tullah

Member
Location
Linconshire
Nothing. It’s a privately owned fraudulent organisation that has positioned itself between farmer and buyer whilst lying to obtain money from its members who are forced to pay to access a market that subsequently allows inferior imported food to be mixed with U.K. produced food. In other words a total con.
And bad for the end consumer who is lied to.
 

tullah

Member
Location
Linconshire
100% correct on all accounts
we were promised a few quid extra per every ton sold huh thats never happened.
Now if your not Assured very few places will deal with you
My very good local grain coop has no outlets for non assured grain
There hands are tied just the same
They would get a far better deal if they opened their doors to "UK Quality Grain" instead of fraudulent rubbish.
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
I will stick my head above the parapet and say that I think ACCS should be a good thing for UK ag.
But the important word is “should”, because currently it is not, and every revision of the rules it seems to get further away from what it should be.
It should offer a premium - it doesn’t.
In RT current form all it does is heap costs from higher up the supply chain onto producers, with absolutely zero recompense.
Frankly, when all is said and done, I would even be fairly okay with RT if at the end of the day it was not far off break even, after costs for me.
Unfortunately it isn’t.
Both on paper and practically I am better qualified than my current RT inspector. As we move through the transition period away from BPS I will need to see a tangible return on all outgoing money.
Red Tractor, AHDB and NFU please listen now, you all need to adapt, (all of us need to adapt) because the framework we have been used to working within is being rapidly dismantled. You have (at most) 3 years to become leaner and be able to show in tangible terms what you offer to individual farm business. Unless you can do that, you will unfortunately become unaffordable dinosaurs.
 
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Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Average farm business surely pays them £300-500 a year.

Can any of their acolytes tell me what they do for their money?

Apart from employee's like Guy Smith wanting a "fresh pair of eyes" on his business (albeit unqualified to advise on health and safety and legal aspects) what does everyone get for their money? Seriously now
They charge you to check your sprayer has passed an annual NSTS test. Then fail you if it hasn't

That's 3 x more often than SQC ask for.

Grain can then be sold to same end users.

So they charge us for extra checks over and above the legal requirement, with no premium for doing so, and same market access as SQC or those pesticide declaration imports.

Other thing they do is rent offices in a pricey London postcode, whilst about 85% of our fee gets swallowed by the inspection company.
 

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