When will RT end ?
- Thread starter 7610 super q
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French farmers are a larger percentage of their population
And most dairy farmers would be without contracts if they didn't renew
- Location
- North Somerset.
I appreciate the plight of dairy farmers but what would happen if dairy farmers got together to tell the buyers that on a certain date they will all resign from RT unless there is a set premium per litre for continued RT supply.
I am have not been directly involved with dairying for many years but with the reduction in the number of dairy farmers cooperation should be easier because each of them is supplying a larger slice of the market than the smaller operators pro rata .What farmers seem to forget is that processors need our product to carry on their business and the prospect of empty supermarket shelves soon after a particular date would focus the minds. It would require the threat of picketing of ports of entry for liquid milk and milk products.
The industry needs a Bob Crow type of leader who is fully supported by his or her membership when negotiating.
If dairy farmers are not prepared to cooperate with each other they will continue to be screwed by the processors and supermarket buyer cartels.
spin cycle
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- north norfolk
i honestly don't know.....perhaps if farming output drops cos of unregulated imports.....leaving much farmland 'furloughed'.....the loss of critical mass meaning there's a loss of critical mass
NOW.....i don't endorse/sympathise/agree with @farmerstu BUT he doesn't deserve to be singled out in the poll IMO
NOW.....i don't endorse/sympathise/agree with @farmerstu BUT he doesn't deserve to be singled out in the poll IMO
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- Cirencester
NOW.....i don't endorse/sympathise/agree with @farmerstu BUT he doesn't deserve to be singled out in the poll IMO
He bloody well does, I'm unsure if he's a troll, if he's just having a laugh or if he really is like he is, no offence to him but he does make my blood boil with his inane drivel, he needs his broadband disconnecting pronto!
There seems to be two of them
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Not sure who farmerstu is but I think you’ve tagged the wrong mani honestly don't know.....perhaps if farming output drops cos of unregulated imports.....leaving much farmland 'furloughed'.....the loss of critical mass meaning there's a loss of critical mass
NOW.....i don't endorse/sympathise/agree with @farmerstu BUT he doesn't deserve to be singled out in the poll IMO
I think you meant to tag farmystu who ain’t anything to do with RT either.
As for farmerstu, I’m sure he’ll be ecstatic at the prospect of being orgasmic.
Ahh bugger, just looked at the poll, it ain’t farmerstu who’s going to be orgasmic, sorry to build up your expectations
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spin cycle
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- Location
- north norfolk
SilliamWhale
Member
No. We do have a choice.
You spent money on RT like us all - the "premium" is apparently the pleasure of being able to sell to someone you were able to before RT anyway.
- Location
- Near Colchester
You can all see what will happen when you look at the pig industry in the UK.........
1999 we ban sow stalls (a good thing) the EU keeps going with them and our national herd halves as a result - it still is only about half of what it was in the 90's.
Most outlets now will only take RT pigs which puts unilateral costs on our producers.
Continental pork about 15 - 20% cheaper than ours at the moment, imports are flooding in, we can't shift all our own pigs as the customers are all happy with non RT imnported without all the necessary extra hoops and paperwork.
Exports of the bits we really don't eat here like cull sows and boars are very difficult in part because of EU importing paperwork.
I am not farm assured for pigs by the way, local butchers buy my pigs and have toured the farm to see what we are up to and are happy with that.
1999 we ban sow stalls (a good thing) the EU keeps going with them and our national herd halves as a result - it still is only about half of what it was in the 90's.
Most outlets now will only take RT pigs which puts unilateral costs on our producers.
Continental pork about 15 - 20% cheaper than ours at the moment, imports are flooding in, we can't shift all our own pigs as the customers are all happy with non RT imnported without all the necessary extra hoops and paperwork.
Exports of the bits we really don't eat here like cull sows and boars are very difficult in part because of EU importing paperwork.
I am not farm assured for pigs by the way, local butchers buy my pigs and have toured the farm to see what we are up to and are happy with that.
that says it all really
Happily, this will not be an issue for me, as I will have given up by then, either farming or living!!
- Location
- East Sussex
A proportion of farmers will leave the RT scheme. Then RT produce will get 5% premium/bonus. Then farmers will rejoin and start bitching again when it doesn't get a premium anymore. Repeat indefinitely.
Happily, this will not be an issue for me, as I will have given up by then, either farming or living!!
I find it utterly bizarre that so many people are spending so much time trying to get rid of RT, and so few are understanding that net zero will be just as much a ball-ache. All of the promises made about RT, all the benefits it was going to bring, the spiel about net zero is identical. It is as if someone at the NFU went into the RT filing cabinet, dusted off the original file, and has retyped it with 'net zero' replacing 'Red Tractor. It needs scrapping now before it gets embedded.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
Who’s going to scrap it?
All the comments around NFU/RT seem to be along the lines of they don’t listen to the ordinary members, just carry on pushing the cause, why should net zero be any different
I guess the only way it will get scrapped is for enough of us to point out the dangers, in the hope that the NFU take note. RT will have taught the NFU lessons as much as it has the rest of us.
red tractor will surely go as a consequence of net zero - cutting out things that are not really essential uses of resources etc
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Obviously need to be Blue they are make in the uk under uk assurance rules, not an unchecked random import, there are some that are even more blue that have passed assurance with flying colours.
tullah
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- Location
- Linconshire
Total collapse of this scam is imminent, never to rear it's fraudulent ugly head again.
No point in putting right all those audit failures especially if all your grain has gone. Don't succumb to the blackmail.
No point in putting right all those audit failures especially if all your grain has gone. Don't succumb to the blackmail.
I think they should have a standard scheme for folk that just want to do the bare minimum really just a check to see that your legal records are up to scratch and your animals looked after then they can have a premium scheme for those that want to go the extra mile with health schemes etc. Then we would see how keen the consumers are to pay extra for the premium scheme.