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- Le Veurde, Allier, France 03320
I believe CNH have had a hydrogen tractor on trial for quite some time, i seem to recall something being used at Wyke farms?
Water and electricity don't mix!Umbilical slurry drivers would be streets ahead driving with a cable ad those guys been doing similar for years.
I think John Deere has a robot tractor that runs on Electric cable. Doesn't need armouring as it is just lying on the ground.Water and electricity don't mix!
The size of cable needed with armouring would be about 4inches in diameter, and add massive weight.
I believe CNH have had a hydrogen tractor on trial for quite some time, i seem to recall something being used at Wyke farms?
Yeah but have you seen the New Holland Methane tractor it looks ridiculousMethane power would make more sense?
It is quite well hidden how much cobalt is used in petrol and diesel refining (for sulphur removal, as a catalyst), on top of the massive energy use (in the order of 1 kWh/litre), so there are pros and cons for both systems.Not only the over consumption of electricity but also the high grade precious metals and components in these battery powered vehicles are finite, non recyclable and their extraction is probably worse than oil for environmental impact. All things that the eco brigade skirt around! At the end of the day all this green powered revolution is powered purely by money and greed the environment comes very low down the priority list!
John Deere also had a 7530e although it never made it into production,I think John Deere has a robot tractor that runs on Electric cable. Doesn't need armouring as it is just lying on the ground.
Perhaps but that still doesn’t make it right to continue pillaging a finite resource does it?It is quite well hidden how much cobalt is used in petrol and diesel refining (for sulphur removal, as a catalyst), on top of the massive energy use (in the order of 1 kWh/litre), so there are pros and cons for both systems.
It can be recycled, unlike oil or gas. It is not used up in batteries. With that logic, we should stop digging up oil, gas and coal now.Perhaps but that still doesn’t make it right to continue pillaging a finite resource does it?
I think if you reread my post I didn’t mention cobalt, I was talking precious metals in general. Surely there is a better way to produce power, naturally produced gasses and adapted combustion engines are surely far more renewable? I just think that this is a very convenient way to make money for a smallish number of people with limited environmental benefit. The clever types should be looking down the renewable energy path which electric is not.It can be recycled, unlike oil or gas. It is not used up in batteries
Unless my maths are completely wrong.....
A Tesla 3 weighs about 1700kg and can travel 350miles with the extended pack. SO - a tractor (and trailer/mower/wagon) could weigh 18ton(?) so call the car 2000kg for ease of maths and that means that the tractor and 'trailer' can travel for 38miles. However most of that mileage would be used up drawing power for the mower/wagon/rake etc and I know from experience that the miles alone can be used up VERY quickly when towing large silage trailers. This coupled with the fact that when carting sileage etc the most break you get is 15mins combined with possibly a 12/14/16/18hours day then you'd never recharge them.
This doesn't allow for muckspreaders/pumping slurry etc where a big 200hp machine could be running flat out for hours on end.
Some years ago KWS calculated that biogas is 4-5 times more carbon efficient than biodiesel and bioethanol - in "Farm Business" 5 Sept 2008 p 45Whatever happened to Biodiesel have we given up on that idea ?
I’m sure all manufacturers have these electric machines ready to roll out when forced too.Ford will all be electric by end of decade and Jaguar and Volvo all electric by 2025.plenty of plant has been electric drive for probably 50/60 years with engines driving generators.instant torque and a flat torque curve would be great in farm machines.
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