It would have been allowed yes, but it was allowed to do lots of things when we were members but chose not to
When will RT end ?
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dont want to get off topic but yes
licence aside (something the EU bureaucracy held up) the EU seem to have seriously messed up getting vaccine, our government has secured 457 million doses and we are miles ahead of any other. EU country on vaccination programme
i have friends in France still under curfews and no prospect of a vaccination for a VERY long time yet, this will mean deaths will go on longer there and economic consequences will be much bigger
the UK has done a bloody good job of this, no real argument there
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Last I checked, many countries within the EU have followed their own path on vaccination. This sort of nonsense from Clive is pointless, after the effect Project Fear - trying to justify what was a dodgy decision in the first place and deflect attention from the numerous failures that were warned about but denied.
You took it off topic with your wholy unnecessary, sniping, non sequiteur. And yes, I agree that the centralised EU procurement hasn't been very good at all - just as well so many have gone on their own as we would have done if we were a member still (we did for almost everything else outside of tariff free trade, so how you think we wouldn't on that I struggle to understand).
Vaccine is to be applauded, absolutely - it's one of the few parts of the pandemic they have done right. outside of that, it's been a pretty poor show.
actually I was responding to this post which i quoted - A whole unnecessary,sniping,non sequiteur !
and there is nothing “dodgy” about democracy
so far things have worked our pretty well, I understand that must be a massive disappointment to remainers who were desperate for apocalyptic disaster so they could all say “we told you so“
Will stand by what I said, we will never know but I think there is a fair chance our gov would have just passed the buck so they could blame others
Think you quoted the wrong post
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- Lincolnshire
They still tried... started building a hard border in Ireland, until it was pointed out the policy was not to have one.
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The EU vaccination program from the get go has been pretty damn poor. I think the availability of vaccines has now picked up steam, and theoretically the vaccination program should also pick up steam.
That said, the two biggest countries in the EU, and the two with the most advanced health care systems, are making a horlicks of sticking the available stuff in peoples arms. German people are turning down the AZ, and insist on waiting for the Pfizer or Moderna, thereby slowing the whole program down. The French are notoriously any vac, and so their program might not reach critical mass for herd immunity.
Here in Paddyland, to be fair to the system, the available vaccines including AZ, are getting into peoples arms same week they arrive in the country.
It’s bloody frustrating to watch vaccines pile up in storage in France and Germany, while other EU countries able and willing to use them ASAP, have to continue to wait.....
That said, the two biggest countries in the EU, and the two with the most advanced health care systems, are making a horlicks of sticking the available stuff in peoples arms. German people are turning down the AZ, and insist on waiting for the Pfizer or Moderna, thereby slowing the whole program down. The French are notoriously any vac, and so their program might not reach critical mass for herd immunity.
Here in Paddyland, to be fair to the system, the available vaccines including AZ, are getting into peoples arms same week they arrive in the country.
It’s bloody frustrating to watch vaccines pile up in storage in France and Germany, while other EU countries able and willing to use them ASAP, have to continue to wait.....
Quite like the last word you used
Maybe we should insist that any Irish beef and dairy products have to come from farms who are members of Red Tractor on the Emerald Isle.
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- NSW, Newstralya
So - what other comparable western country has FA schemes anything like the UK ?
Possibly none ?
Possibly none ?
I dont know but thats a very interesting question.
Ireland
Yes. The difference being that there is a “premium” paid by processors to Irish QA approved farmers. This does not apparently apply in the UK!!!!
That said, the QA premium top up paid to an approved Irish beef finisher, still leaves him a couple of hundred euro below his UK counterpart who gets no premium?????
UK farmers it seems to me, get in general a far higher market price for their produce than we do in ROI.
Still though, when you read on here, you seem to have a very dissatisfied industry. Looking for scapegoats all over the place, from EU, to NFU, to RT, to DEFRA.....
The main “agent provocateur” in here, mustn’t have a pot to pee in, with the very low prices
But is it a premium or are they discounting the rest??Yes. The difference being that there is a “premium” paid by processors to Irish QA approved farmers. This does not apparently apply in the UK!!!!
That said, the QA premium top up paid to an approved Irish beef finisher, still leaves him a couple of hundred euro below his UK counterpart who gets no premium?????
UK farmers it seems to me, get in general a far higher market price for their produce than we do in ROI.
Still though, when you read on here, you seem to have a very dissatisfied industry. Looking for scapegoats all over the place, from EU, to NFU, to RT, to DEFRA.....
The main “agent provocateur” in here, mustn’t have a pot to pee in, with the very low prices
- Location
- Limousin, France
France, but run as it should be, completely voluntary ,not the RT Maria. We used to be fabbl in UK years ago.
So LABEL ROUGE, we sell store cattle to Italy and some fat cows.
Get an inspection each year, cast an eye over cows and yards etc.
Check passports, check eartags in cupboard and they marry up. Open up the online cattle site that shows all movements ,births ,registration dates, eartags in stock etc.
Vet and med records , prescriptions,
Feed bought ,its constituents, delivery tickets etc. No ogm allowed! No urea in feed!
Check the annual Vet report and paperwork.
Fert, spray records, PAC records.etc.
Q and A on general cattle and farming knowledge. Different subject each time set by the Sanitaire.
Check provenance of Bulls.
We only get more money on the fat cattle but it enables the stores to go assured through the groupement.
If we finished our stores or had sheep about 30% would get bonus of baronet quality classification etc.
Puts 20/25 euros on a lamb and 100+ on a fat beast.
Costs,
Our annual Vet report about 50euros ,gives us right to buy drugs but one other is payed by the Sanitaire.
Label Rouge, free to groupement members and a copy is sent to the Sanitaire so less government inspections unless you've got black marks.
Takes about 2 hours, with Mrs lbp. I find I'm "busy"
Read on here about the stupid f**king rules over there now and endless twits coming round. Unbelievable!
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- Location
- East meath/dublin
Different job Ash the The Bord Bia scheme is state owned and the IFA are there to keep manners on the job . Apparently their is also a premuim for stock at the meat plant . The milk purchasers are Not paying any carrot only wielding a 5 cent stick to force suppliers into it . That doesent sit well with me . The bord bia clipboard clowns have stayed away from the feed grain growers so far maybe the are afraid of growers demanding a premuim for quality assured grain been fed to quality assured cattle instead of imported byproducts like soya hulls !!! Ah no that would only make sense best not to go there .
Whats happening over the water is what we need to avoid so pay attention
Danllan
Member
- Location
- Sir Gar / Carms
In our second year of not belonging to RT, to my surprise we got an e-mail from RT today...
£50... wow! Are they taking the p!ss?
£50... wow! Are they taking the p!ss?