Clover seed in creep feeders

[Just because]

Hi everyone has any tried putting clover seed in creep feeders to spread clover across pasture land?? thanks

 

[Great In Grass]

I know many who have tried it, unsuccessfully I may add.

In a trial carried out by the North Carolina State University, they found that after the passage of the seed through cattle the reduction in seed viability from 96 per cent out of the bag to 14 per cent out of the animal was "a clear hindrance on the success of this method".

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Hi everyone has any tried putting clover seed in creep feeders to spread clover across pasture land?? thanks

People do it but there are better ways .

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I know many who have tried it, unsuccessfully I may add.

In a trial carried out by the North Carolina State University, they found that after the passage of the seed through cattle the reduction in seed viability from 96 per cent out of the bag to 14 per cent out of the animal was "a clear hindrance on the success of this method".

I think that's an exaggeration, it has clearly worked better than that by people who have tried it . Eat s tomatoes and poo in the garden , you will seen seehow effective nature takes over as intended

 

[Great In Grass]

I think that's an exaggeration, it has clearly worked better than that by people who have tried it . Eat s tomatoes and poo in the garden , you will seen seehow effective nature takes over as intended

Firstly, unlike some Welshmen, we Cornishmen do not poo in the garden.

Secondly, you cannot compare the human digestive system with a ruminant!

 

[deere 6600]

I’ve done it and would do it again with lambs results are sometimes slow but it did increase clover

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Firstly, unlike some Welshmen, we Cornishmen do not poo in the garden.

Secondly, you cannot compare the human digestive system with a ruminant!

So your saying Nature got it wrong when it invented self seeding. Lot of farmers graze Seeded crimson clover to self seed in another field

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Hi everyone has any tried putting clover seed in creep feeders to spread clover across pasture land?? thanks

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[Great In Grass]

So your saying Nature got it wrong when it invented self seeding. Lot of farmers graze Seeded crimson clover to self seed in another field

Where in the self-seeding process does the seed go through the digestive system of an animal?

 

[Sucklersnstores]

How viable is grass seed once passed through cattle? We have some rough banks could do with some new grass in, if it was mixed in with cake when there troughed then a quick run over with chain harrows after a week or so ? Or am I been backwards, ? Sorry for jumping on the thread

 

[Derrick Hughes]

How viable is grass seed once passed through cattle? We have some rough banks could do with some new grass in, if it was mixed in with cake when there troughed then a quick run over with chain harrows after a week or so ? Or am I been backwards, ? Sorry for jumping on the thread

Not as viable as clover . You need small hard seed

 

[Sucklersnstores]

Not as viable as clover . You need small hard seed

Thought as much, cheers

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Thought as much, cheers

Manure/seeding technique is best suited for hard-coated forage seed such as legumes, s. Alfalfa, clovers, sainfoin, trefoil and vetch all produce hard-coated seed and many can pass through an animal’s digestive system without being damaged. Grass seeds are typically softer seeds and can be damaged in the rumen.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Where in the self-seeding process does the seed go through the digestive system of an animal?

Animals eat fruit like
Why do you think nature stuck seed in the middle. Not by accident I can assure you
But if I was wanting to overseed clover it would be durring a hard frost in February

But I'm so glad after your informative advice I no longer have to worry about Dock Seed in my imported cow slurry [emoji23]

 

[Al R]

Done it but seed rates would have been quite high I’m guessing. Under sowing cereal crops with clover leys, there’s a fair amount of clover in the cereals at combining, feed the cereals back to sheep and they spread them out. Works particularly well in the winter when the ground is wetter so they get trodden in and the grass around is slower growing so they don’t shade the seed out so much.

 

[milkloss]

Two year old red clover silage bales fed to cows in spring last year has grown on the verge where they were coming into yards once a day.

if you can get el cheapo clover seed id give it a go. I don't think 'stitching' (sounds so easy doesn't it?) clover in an established ley with a machine is worth it to be honest.

 

[Farmer Fin]

I think that's an exaggeration, it has clearly worked better than that by people who have tried it . Eat s tomatoes and poo in the garden , you will seen seehow effective nature takes over as intended

Different type of seed though. Fruit seeds are designed to be eaten and then pooped out.

 

[Yale]

I suppose for dairy farms you could throw the clover in the lagoon then agitate it and spread with tanker or umbilical.

 

[Great In Grass]

I suppose for dairy farms you could throw the clover in the lagoon then agitate it and spread with tanker or umbilical.

A customer of mine throws handfuls of clover out of the truck window while driving around checking animals in the field 7-10 days before they come out. That does seem to work.

 

[Pistonbroke]

We went from newton rigg college to a hill farm west scotland somewhere and he was getting his cake firm to put clover seed into high mag cobs to feed cows out on the hill. He had more clover up there than our best ground. Very obvious where the cattle had been