No sorry went from jf900 to 1350
jf1350
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Wilting can be an issue in heavy first cut in that case we leave it in singles but if it’s dry and in second and third cuts it’s perfect we aim for 30% dm so don’t want it too dry. We try to lay them side by side so they can dry foragers pickup is 3.1m so not an issue. We also bale 3rd cut with ease with a Krone big square baler sometimes if clamps are too full
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- Co antrim
No sorry i meant a jd 1365 mower
Wellytrack
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I'd reckon a 1460 hitched up to 300hp would get through 100 acres a day.
Need everything else to scale though or its pointless.
Need everything else to scale though or its pointless.
Sambo
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- South Derbys/Staffs
Easily but as you say you would need good sized fields, a vario tractor because keeping the drum at full rpm is quicker than mauling it and a nice wide swath with no contamination at all because as soon as you lose the edge on the knives it's hard thirsty going
Sambo
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ollie989898
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You run with the swath between the wheels and the chopper directly behind?
We normally do 70/75acres a day with a 1060 and mf 7724 chopping 2 into 1 raked rows. Normally chop for 12 hours a day. As said a good edge on the blades helps no end and cvt transmission help a lot but we didn’t do much less with a mf 6490 on the chopper. Will use 280/300L of fuel a day. Most of output is lost by stopping the right number of trailers and not pushing to hard so your block the pickup all the time.
Sambo
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Only for the first time around, can only really turn right with it folded in and can only really turn left with it folded out without the pto knocking, keep a the trailers out the hedge.
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Sambo
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We used to pick up autoswathed rows without problems then went to raking to get more output but have had problems with stone in the silage and the knives going blunt quickly. This year had a merger in the get the output without the stone and the chopper is still sharp after 90acres. Vario also makes it a lot easier on the driver to drive.
Sambo
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200hp should be good for 1st and 2nd cut 2in1 . Also to consider is the width of them, gate ways and moving on the road, around 3.5m.
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The 3.5 meter wide bit is why we have a 1060. I would like to try a 1260.
How long would you leave heavy first cut , before picking it up ?
michael N123
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We stick 3 10s of heavy first July cut threw a mex6
Wellytrack
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Wouldn’t be good for it though. The weight of that on the cam.
You’ll hear and read of the headline big acre days using a JF chopper, and there’s no doubt they can, on occasion do big acres in a day. The difference is to even a small self propelled, they will not do big acres every day without something breaking. Be it a chain, a roll pin, a clutch, blades smashing out. Just about every day, there will be something. We made the leap to a self propelled after running JF for 25 years. The last one we had was brand new and we ran it one season. Granted, when a self propelled goes wrong- they really go wrong, but you don’t get that continuous daily maintainance requirement that is so time consuming. I’ve found the biggest time saver with the SPFH is the ability to sharpen up and set the shearbar between trailers at the press of a button. It’s literally a half hour job with the trailed. Also auto greasing.
I agree they are cheap to fix, but I wouldn’t call them cheap to run when you have five men stood looking at the thing every time something minor has gone wrong.
I agree they are cheap to fix, but I wouldn’t call them cheap to run when you have five men stood looking at the thing every time something minor has gone wrong.
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Wellytrack
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Your right in what you say but there is a difference between contractor and DIY workload.
A 300 acre job typical of many dairy men is two days with a modern SP, three an older one and four to five depending on the fitness of the trailer harvester.
If the JF blows up and loses half a day that's more acceptable than the SP blowup costing 10k.
Horses for courses, that's partly why trailed and forage wagons continue to be used despite modern SP's having an awesome untouchable performance.
For us it works well as we need the tractors for the mower chopper and the trailers for the arable work we use the rake to turn straw most years. The mower gets used for some contracting and to mow the hay. The buck rack is 30 years old. We aren’t keen on a SPH as we would have to do the maize to justify if and that is already a busy time of year as we have cows calving and arable work to do.
michael N123
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- Cheltenham
You should. It’s a good machine and more manageable than the 13/1460