Kramer vs JCB

Reviewing loader options at the moment.

a decent 2nd hand JCB (531 - 70) about 3 y r old with 3-4000 on the clock is mid 40's

a new one is about £80k im told

how do Kramer compare? prices seem similar new.

will do about 500 hrs per annum mostly loading lorries and yard work.

was looking at second hand but new does not seem daft for the price.

always had JCB and so would have to get a head stock fitted to the Kramer.

any thoughts welcome!?
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
Reviewing loader options at the moment.

a decent 2nd hand JCB (531 - 70) about 3 y r old with 3-4000 on the clock is mid 40's

a new one is about £80k im told

how do Kramer compare? prices seem similar new.

will do about 500 hrs per annum mostly loading lorries and yard work.

was looking at second hand but new does not seem daft for the price.

always had JCB and so would have to get a head stock fitted to the Kramer.

any thoughts welcome!?

"was looking at second hand but new does not seem daft for the price."

First time anyones said this in ages! both new and used have got silly expensive if you ask me! :ROFLMAO: :X3:
 
"was looking at second hand but new does not seem daft for the price."

First time anyones said this in ages! both new and used have got silly expensive if you ask me! :ROFLMAO: :X3:
I didn’t say they were cheap, just relatively speaking a new jcb is not a daft idea.

we bought new many years back and kept it 20 years, didn’t owe us when we sold it. Doubt a new one will keep going that long, electric gizmos bound to have some say it!
 

ollie798

Member
Reviewing loader options at the moment.

a decent 2nd hand JCB (531 - 70) about 3 y r old with 3-4000 on the clock is mid 40's

a new one is about £80k im told

how do Kramer compare? prices seem similar new.

will do about 500 hrs per annum mostly loading lorries and yard work.

was looking at second hand but new does not seem daft for the price.

always had JCB and so would have to get a head stock fitted to the Kramer.

any thoughts welcome!?
Whereabouts are you based? I have both a 531-70 Agri Super (2018/4300hrs) and a KT407 (2019/1500hrs) in the same yard near Oxford if you would like to come and view them side by side?
 

Triangle

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dorset
We baught a 532-60 lower hp engine with belly plates and 2 aux new for a massive chunck less than that orderd dec deliv may this year new isnt so bad if you go careful on the spec sheet like led lights were mad money
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
Different machine altogether 6m reach and less power.
Punches well above it's weight though, and a big cost saving over the slightly bigger capacity machines. It's also significantly cheaper than the OP's new price estimate.

I certainly wouldn't walk past it to buy the OP's used option of a 4000 hour machine well past the warranty for mid £40'000's, no thanks.
 
Whereabouts are you based? I have both a 531-70 Agri Super (2018/4300hrs) and a KT407 (2019/1500hrs) in the same yard near Oxford if you would like to come and view them side by side?
thats v kind, are either for sale :)

ill pm if i need to, where did you get them from? Near Thame im guessing?
Punches well above it's weight though, and a big cost saving over the slightly bigger capacity machines. It's also significantly cheaper than the OP's new price estimate.

I certainly wouldn't walk past it to buy the OP's used option of a 4000 hour machine well past the warranty for mid £40'000's, no thanks.
That's my point. looking 10 yrs, spend 45k on a 4000 hr machine or 80 on new? im not doing 1000 hrs a yr so in 4 yrs what will have lost the most value...
 

D14

Member
Reviewing loader options at the moment.

a decent 2nd hand JCB (531 - 70) about 3 y r old with 3-4000 on the clock is mid 40's

a new one is about £80k im told

how do Kramer compare? prices seem similar new.

will do about 500 hrs per annum mostly loading lorries and yard work.

was looking at second hand but new does not seem daft for the price.

always had JCB and so would have to get a head stock fitted to the Kramer.

any thoughts welcome!?

Been through this recently and couldn't get my head around the prices so we bought a 7000 hour machine for £20,000 fully serviced and with new tyres but with the view yes it will cost us in repairs over another 10 years of 300 hours a year but it is not going to cost £75,000 which is what we would of have to added to the £20,000 to buy a brand new one. Worst case is gearbox and engine but we've since had all the oils tested and an ex jcb mechanic go through it for the sake of £500 and his view is that its spot on. Its ag spec but come from a builders merchants so never seen any soil or muck in its life. Even with another 3000 hours on the clock how much will it drop in value? Not much!
 

ollie798

Member
So which one do you prefer? value for money etc
I’m a Kramer dealer so a bit biased.. but the JCB is still a good machine.
We have sold over 80 Kramer’s this year and taken 25 JCB’s in part exchange. The Kramer has excellent build quality and is very user friendly. I believe they are slightly cheaper than an equivalent JCB and very reliable.
 

ollie798

Member
thats v kind, are either for sale :)

ill pm if i need to, where did you get them from? Near Thame im guessing?

That's my point. looking 10 yrs, spend 45k on a 4000 hr machine or 80 on new? im not doing 1000 hrs a yr so in 4 yrs what will have lost the most value...
If you send me a message on 07458 061624 we can arrange a viewing. They are at Farol Ltd - OX9 2NZ.
 

Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

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Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

Written by Lisa Applin

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In July, we opened the applications window for farmers to join our Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot.

The Sustainable Farming Incentive is 1 of the 3 new environmental land management schemes. It sits alongside the future Local Nature Recovery and Landscape Recovery schemes.

Through the Sustainable Farming Incentive, farmers will be paid for environmentally sustainable actions – ones that are simple to do and do not require previous agri-environment scheme experience.

We are piloting the scheme to...
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