NFU Leader Retires

[Humble Village Farmer]

I heard Tom Bradshaw on farming today earlier. He was banging on about food security and exports in the same breath.

No one quite wants to admit there's a great deal of potential supply, which will only be forthcoming if and when it's an economic proposition.

 

[Bobby Spray]

I heard Tom Bradshaw on farming today earlier. He was banging on about food security and exports in the same breath.

No one quite wants to admit there's a great deal of potential supply, which will only be forthcoming if and when it's an economic proposition.

Why is bradshaw talking about food security? Isn't that the job of the government? Shouldn't he be advocating for is members by cutting red tape and securing profitable operating conditions?

 

[Bald Rick]

Really ? What did they do ?

Talk?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Why is bradshaw talking about food security? Isn't that the job of the government? Shouldn't he be advocating for is members by cutting red tape and securing profitable operating conditions?

Possibly it's a way to keep farmers in business (through subsidisation), rather than forcing the corporate food system to pay sustainable prices?

If government pays more to farmers, as Minnette was saying they should at the conference, then the corporate membership can carry on as they are.

Edit, and more importantly, the corporate members can carry on "sponsoring" their non farmers union.

 

[Forkdriver]

#Egbert, you may like to read your last paragraph and correct the typo . I think you meant coincidentally.

 

[thesilentone]

Possibly it's a way to keep farmers in business (through subsidisation), rather than forcing the corporate food system to pay sustainable prices?

If government pays more to farmers, as Minnette was saying they should at the conference, then the corporate membership can carry on as they are.

Edit, and more importantly, the corporate members can carry on "sponsoring" their non farmers union.

On the money.

Control of the food-chain = Power and Profit, and who get's the Lion's share.

A deep debate that needs opened up, and who is behind it all.

Think we all know.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Most of the young 'uns I meet round here don't have any great issue with RT, and seem happy to embrace carbon auditing.

I doubt that encouraging them to the top table will quell the TFF protesters.

Thats funny because there is a lot of protesting going on at the moment over doing carbon auditing for the new Welsh SFP

 

[neilo]

Thats funny because there is a lot of protesting going on at the moment over doing carbon auditing for the new Welsh SFP

I think somehow there might be more issues upsetting folk than just the carbon auditing.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Why is bradshaw talking about food security? Isn't that the job of the government? Shouldn't he be advocating for is members by cutting red tape and securing profitable operating conditions?

I think I read mention of the old "level playing field" chestnut as well as Red Tape, but RT makes the playing field unlevel voluntarily.

There is also more Red Tape with RT than anything governmental

 

[JP1]

He won't try...he seems to be quite indoctrinated already.

As for the outgoing pres?
We've only approached her once directly - about the new eid /new numbering system for cattle
(and what an unholy fudge up it is)
Mrs Egbert was put in front of her, and she dismissed our concerns out of hand. Arrogant and disrespectful, with no grasp -not the faintest- what it is actually like on a rain sodden hill farm.
The lack of understanding is forgivable, the arrogance was not.

It boils my wee that 'we' elected a pres based largely on gender....what a nonsense, and a pathetic reflection on the organisation.
Even that her association with that Greed lady was a good thing!!!!!!! Yuk. double yuk.

Our prospects have sunk dismally- where I'm sitting- since her tenure, with gov still clinging to the anti-food agenda at the expense of production.
And her valedictory tour of goodbyes sickens me.
The ongoing RT fiasco and apparent attendant slump in numbers is indicative of how wrong it's going.
Never forget she was involved in RT all along.

She has not been the NFU's finest hour.



PS. I notice I co-indecently lost a gig with the firm the moment she took office........shortly after backing Guy's run on this forum.

I'm proud to still have Gibbo as a FB friend. If he'd ever stood for High Office ...................

 

[SilliamWhale]

I think somehow there might be more issues upsetting folk than just the carbon auditing.

Its one aspect.

 

[soapsud]

Before any of that happens you first have to accept that the NFU is not a union. Its an influencing organisation. No union that I have ever dealt with (40 years in heavy industry) has ever worked for anyone but their members. You certainly can't say that of the NFU. And maybe new blood from outside of farmers is required. It would certainly provide a different perspective.

In the 80s the influence went both ways - grass roots up and industry standards down in a nice self-reinforcing feedback loop of proper representation. Now it's different.

 

[soapsud]

Most of the young 'uns I meet round here don't have any great issue with RT, and seem happy to embrace carbon auditing.

I doubt that encouraging them to the top table will quell the TFF protesters.

If they're easily led (unquestioning and dependable) then some would say that's ideal committee fodder. Others may perhaps suggest they need more real world experience?

Look at how erudite @Austin7 was last year. His manner of communication is earnt from thrashing out ideas with adversaries until they make sense for almost everyone. You being in Wales know that better than most.

 

[robs1]

I don't know who to believe these days and I think that is the whole idea. I wasn't convinced your picture was genuine and that shows my level of not accepting everything I see/read. There are plenty of pics and videos of her wearing it out there so it is seemingly genuine.
I did find this on the matter but where is the truth?

No, this colorful badge doesn’t indicate membership to the New World Order

observers.france24.com

Yes you are sensible to be cynical and not believe anything, I try to do that but jumped straight in this time that is was a genuine picture, glad you checked it out, it's very easy to believe things that we want to be true, we are old enough to remember the what can't speak can't lie line but unfortunately today with computers most stuff can be fabricated

 

[Hilly]

Talk?

Its good to talk Rick !

 

[Hilly]

I don't know who to believe these days and I think that is the whole idea. I wasn't convinced your picture was genuine and that shows my level of not accepting everything I see/read. There are plenty of pics and videos of her wearing it out there so it is seemingly genuine.
I did find this on the matter but where is the truth?

No, this colorful badge doesn’t indicate membership to the New World Order

observers.france24.com

Never belive anuthing you hear and only half
Of what you see is an old saying thats never been more in fashion than today.

 

[Charles.]

Most of the young 'uns I meet round here don't have any great issue with RT, and seem happy to embrace carbon auditing.

I doubt that encouraging them to the top table will quell the TFF protesters.

Yes, the kids in school are educated about net zero rubbish amongst other things. I think the conspiracy theorists are right, saying WEF etc. have planned this for years, infiltrating different sectors such as schools to suit their evil agendas. Sadly most young people have been brainwashed however there are ones who have done their homework and have found out they have been lied to, it's those young people we need in positions like the NFU.

 

[Charles.]

Emotions are high , and stuff is said which sometimes is to strong, bur let there be no mistake, the lady in question has done immense damage to British Agri , she is heavily involved with the BRC , who are out to fleece farmers as much as they can get away with.She is heavily involved with a assurance scheme which is controlling us in every way. See dairy thread the treatment of a member regarding a on the spot inspection ,when a partner of farmers was seriously ill in hospital and the brutal way they dealt with the farmer. She has promoted a net zero which is frankly impossible for us all to achieve. Most important of all , the words she spoke and influenced has to be remembered effects peoples livelihoods and family whether they support her organisation or not. I feel very angry towards what she has done in her term, as do many others, So maybe describing her legacy and term of office should not be too sugar coated.

Precisely.

Farmers have killed themselves or suffer because of the way these assurance schemes conduct themselves. Farmers forced against their will into schemes so Batters and BRC profit. If net zero was enacted to the fullest extent across the planet, it would equate to small and medium businesses finishing, world recession, people's lives a misery and controlled more. I think the conspiracy theorists are correct, this is the aim of WEF Klaus Schwab, you will eat the bugs, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy, the WEF and corporates rule over us.

 

[Bald Rick]

Its good to talk Rick !

Rabbit


I’ll get my coat …

 

[BrianV]

Precisely.

Farmers have killed themselves or suffer because of the way these assurance schemes conduct themselves. Farmers forced against their will into schemes so Batters and BRC profit. If net zero was enacted to the fullest extent across the planet, it would equate to small and medium businesses finishing, world recession, people's lives a misery and controlled more. I think the conspiracy theorists are correct, this is the aim of WEF Klaus Schwab, you will eat the bugs, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy, the WEF and corporates rule over us.

If you saw what it costs & the waste involved in this WEF shindig you would be appalled, the place crawls with creeps on the make & big business of all sorts splashing the cash, shops let out their premises for hundreds of thousands to be gutted have new temporary frontage built with internet names splashed all over amongst many others & then restored for the 3 weeks it takes, the ladies of the night do an absolute roaring trade there for that week.