Tine seeders, info required

[norfolk'n'good]

Gone from getting concerned to getting a little bit desperate here! Got alot of ploughed and pressed land ready to go but not overly optimistic it will dry enough underneath for either ther combination or vaderstad to go. If the top couple of inches was to dry would a tine seeder be any good? Dont really want another drill but dont want to have 90% of the farm reliant on spring cropping.
Also any ones to recommend or to avoid?

 

[beardface]

Just got KV here. Best of the lot in my opinion.

 

[DRC]

You could hire something maybe. Ellis farm machinery hire stuff .

 

[Jon]

Well, I'm in the the same boat.
I also have blackgrass so am telling myself it's OK, it's allowing more weed to emerge.

I have a Kuhn tine drill which will be fine if there is a haze up, but I have only cultivated the very top, not ploughed.
This drill is heavy, last year I drilled with half a tank at s time.

It would be even better as a tool bar and front tank, this is the option I would recommend.

 

[DrWazzock]

I’m in a similar boat. It’s ploughed nicely and the rain is breaking it down well. It’s actually greening up with volunteer barley and various weeds.
It’s somewhere between a mess and nearly alright, but getting nearer a mess with every mm of rain. Am I really going to attempt to glyphosate it pre drilling?
I have been looking at tine drills but I think for me it’s just too damn sticky to go on it with anything at the moment.
Kverneland seems to be the business though. But three drills on 200 acres is getting silly.
Find a contractor?

 

[Clive]

if all goes to plan for us this week we will be finished with this and happy to hire it out (with an operator or machine only)

If you have unmoved stubble and a tractor can travel it will drill !

 

[Jon]

I’m in a similar boat. It’s ploughed nicely and the rain is breaking it down well. It’s actually greening up with volunteer barley and various weeds.
It’s somewhere between a mess and nearly alright, but getting nearer a mess with every mm of rain. Am I really going to attempt to glyphosate it pre drilling?
I have been looking at tine drills but I think for me it’s just too damn sticky to go on it with anything at the moment.
Kverneland seems to be the business though. But three drills on 200 acres is getting silly.
Find a contractor?

There's a lot of us in the same boat if we're honest.
I was talking to my neighbour about glphosate before drill or not, maybe add some to the pre emergence spray.
But it's early October, we can get better spells of weather yet.
A bit of sun, some wind and it'll haze a treat.

 

[czechmate]

This time last year I was in this dilemma and was looking for a KV ts. Nearest dealer is KV. The only second hand I could find was a Kuhn Megant. I am very happy I have it at the moment as it really did get wet enough with storm Alex but I am also hopeful to be drilling in perfect conditions in a couple of weeks
In moist conditions, the difference in damage to the soil compared to anything that involves a power Harrow (work of the devil in my eyes) has to be huge

 

[Bury the Trash]

This time last year I was in this dilemma and was looking for a KV ts. Nearest dealer is KV. The only second hand I could find was a Kuhn Megant. I am very happy I have it at the moment as it really did get wet enough with storm Alex but I am also hopeful to be drilling in perfect conditions in a couple of weeks
In moist conditions, the difference in damage to the soil compared to anything that involves a power Harrow (work of the devil in my eyes) has to be huge

What do you do to the ground before the drill and what sort of soil is it ?

 

[czechmate]

What do you do to the ground before the drill and what sort of soil is it ?

That is a sore point.
Looking to save work as I look to semi retirement, I was hoping I could get to some sort of dd, semi dd.
The soil here (very easy to work and hungry) doesn’t crack - at all. It has been drained, circa 1984, about 1.2 m deep with no gravel. I have found that without subsoiling, oh most is a genital slope, I end up with a huge area of catastrophic water logging. So, basically it seems I have to continue with annual subsoiling, I then pull a carrier over it. That is how all my cereal ground is at the moment. This tine drill then works a treat. My only concern about drilling in more moist conditions than I would choose to is about the tractor wheels over my subsoiling, the drill will be fine. It is 4.8 m wide so tyres are only on 30% ground. Also the guy before had this large field all split up into little parcels with electric fences and ploughed little pieces, which meant the field had some horrid lumps and furrows. This tine drill is excellent for levelling it all out again. If I see sense and put it all back to grass my land will be like a bowling green

 

[bobk]

This time last year I was in this dilemma and was looking for a KV ts. Nearest dealer is KV. The only second hand I could find was a Kuhn Megant. I am very happy I have it at the moment as it really did get wet enough with storm Alex but I am also hopeful to be drilling in perfect conditions in a couple of weeks
In moist conditions, the difference in damage to the soil compared to anything that involves a power Harrow (work of the devil in my eyes) has to be huge

We're not coming , forecast is shite

 

[czechmate]

We're not coming , forecast is shite

well movement is getting ...
Interesting

 

[bobk]

well movement is getting ...
Interesting

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[czechmate]

We're not coming , forecast is shite

Forcast for today was /even is, a lovely day. I was thinking of glyphoing. At the moment, there’s a heavy shower

 

[bobk]

Forcast for today was /even is, a lovely day. I was thinking of glyphoing. At the moment, there’s a heavy shower

Next week isn't great , week after is worse

 

[beardface]

if all goes to plan for us this week we will be finished with this and happy to hire it out (with an operator or machine only)

If you have unmoved stubble and a tractor can travel it will drill !

Not round here it won't......

 

[moretimeforgolf]

Started drilling wheat today directly into spring oats stubble. Going nicely with the Weaving Sabre time.

 

[bkg]

Not round here it won't......

Are, there's always the east coast beach, wlll get a go on that, if the tide is out

 

[Shutesy]

Gone from getting concerned to getting a little bit desperate here! Got alot of ploughed and pressed land ready to go but not overly optimistic it will dry enough underneath for either ther combination or vaderstad to go. If the top couple of inches was to dry would a tine seeder be any good? Dont really want another drill but dont want to have 90% of the farm reliant on spring cropping.
Also any ones to recommend or to avoid?

Running a 6m KV and a 6m Weaving here, KV much the better drill, but the Weaving is cheap and cheerful and puts the seed in the ground when conditions are not ideal. Heard good things about Kuhn as well, we are hoping to get the Rapid going again this Autumn if the weather plays ball but the tines drills will go much sooner. I would say in your situation where dry on top but a bit tender underneath a tine drill would work well.

 

[spin cycle]

old fashioned triple K 11am on a nice day and drill with tined juko at 3pm