tractor hire with operator

[daveydiesel1]

Catch ursel on. Not bein cheeky but chasin after weather dependant work thats in a market already saturated with contractors is madness. Go get a digger or dozer and a site ticket and get hired into a site with a construction company way plenty o work. Upkeep on a digger is alot less than a tractor, work all year with only 1 machine to keep, not really weather dependant and u dont have to work all the hours given to u just cause the rains comin next week, also this bit might not concern u now but trust me in future it will when it comes time to get a mortgage and rear a family ul have far more chance cause ul have steady moneyand bein paid reguarly. The drivin the tractors might seem more fun but at the end o the day its the money in ur bank account that matters. Thats my pennies worth but ur the man so up to u

 

[aaronyoung]

Catch ursel on. Not bein cheeky but chasin after weather dependant work thats in a market already saturated with contractors is madness. Go get a digger or dozer and a site ticket and get hired into a site with a construction company way plenty o work. Upkeep on a digger is alot less than a tractor, work all year with only 1 machine to keep, not really weather dependant and u dont have to work all the hours given to u just cause the rains comin next week, also this bit might not concern u now but trust me in future it will when it comes time to get a mortgage and rear a family ul have far more chance cause ul have steady moneyand bein paid reguarly. The drivin the tractors might seem more fun but at the end o the day its the money in ur bank account that matters. Thats my pennies worth but ur the man so up to u

. I understand time are tuff but I can tell your are more than likely a contractor urself ,I don’t want to sound cheeky here either but I think by saying that u are saying leave all the work to the big boys I would consider that to be greedy I don’t want to go to door looking and taking work no, I want to start from the very bottom and work my way up gradually you see all the big boys want is 200 acres off one farm but what about the little farmer that wants 30 acres of silage cut or mowed where is he put at the bottom of the list and the funny thing is he’s that one who pays you going out the gate but the man who wants 200 acres cut well he’s on top and guess what he doesn’t pay you till 5 months later and that’s why I think the market is in need Of someone to look little farmer who wants up to 70 acres cut now not tomorrow or next week now ,thanks again For you option

 

[Irish NZ]

im not looking for smart answers only constructive ones please

Your getting them unfortunately it's just not what you want to hear....

what are yer opions on post driver hire and fencing

Fencing is a whole other trade in itself. It's not simply a case of hooking on a driver to the tractor and banging away. Might be worth working along side a top fencer for a few years and then go on your own. You won't need a big shiny tractor so you won't be able to lord it up like Terrance big balls but you'll have an in demand skill.

Plus a decent driver isn't cheap

 

[james ds]

well yes but if you look after your tractor it will look after you will it not

No it will wear out regardless .

 

[ollie989898]

Like every young lad with a bit of interest in machinery we all at that stage of life dreamed of being a 'contractor' and running up and down the roads in our tractor like the big boys. They are the big boys for a reason and often have two or three generations at the game before them. It is a complete and utter waste of both your time and money, and thats before the tractor breaks down or needs a new set of tyres. Generally the market is over saturated if anything. The established and cute contractors cant make it pay, they cant get out either with the debt they have accumulated and they finally have a fairly incurable disease in relation to machinery that leads to keep buying more in 'hope' of work!! If interested in machinery and mechanically minded I would advise to go work with a good mechanic or fitter for the summer. Great experience if you are with a good guy and you have the ability to work hard and soak up their knowledge and experience. Generally there is no money in hiring out yourself on top of depreciating machinery. You get one shot at life, particularly when you are that age, don't waste it up on a tractor doing work for lads that have no intention of paying you and if they do not at a fair rate.

Tsk tsk tsk- terrible defeatist attitude. This is contracting don't ya know. Fortunes to be made for the brave.

There is much financial and technical assistance available for the discerning wannabe contractor, even government help. Why, just as an example here is a very handy screen shot of a long-established app available for anyone interested in the game- use it to calculate profits, turnover and tax/reinvestment policies in one handy app. Here:

 

[ARW]

There’s a reason we aren’t all telling you to go for it, everyone has to start somewhere but there is better ways to earn a good living.
you can afford to do it now living at home but in 5 years time may regret doing all that work for not much reward, you could be stuck at your parents with a tired tractor with bald tyres and no better off

 

[aaronyoung]

There’s a reason we aren’t all telling you to go for it, everyone has to start somewhere but there is better ways to earn a good living.
you can afford to do it now living at home but in 5 years time may regret doing all that work for not much reward, you could be stuck at your parents with a tired tractor with bald tyres and no better off

Look I completely understand and I’m taking what your saying on board and yes you are completely right in what your saying but at the end of it nothing beats the hard going an making it work, thanks again and look this is just the beginning and that’s why I’m asking for options, thanks again

 

[aaronyoung]

Your getting them unfortunately it's just not what you want to hear....


Fencing is a whole other trade in itself. It's not simply a case of hooking on a driver to the tractor and banging away. Might be worth working along side a top fencer for a few years and then go on your own. You won't need a big shiny tractor so you won't be able to lord it up like Terrance big balls but you'll have an in demand skill.

Plus a decent driver isn't cheap

Yes but also thinking of hiring the post driver on self hire,45€ plus vat a day ? Machine would nearly pay for its self in 60. Days of being hired out

 

[dave mountain]

I know you don't necessarily need shiny kit for fencing, but you would if you are hoping to hire it out (protect p300s, Bryce Suma etc) so I would forget that idea. Be better with a small cheap tractor and post knocker and just doing fencing, topping the odd pony paddock topping, bit of muckaway for small local sites etc. Could get a simple 4wd 75hp tractor, reasonable post knocker, new 9ft topper, and a new 4t trailer for less than just the tractor you'd need to to any mainstream (and less profitable) contracting. Far less money tied up and you stand a chance of actually making a profit on each job. Rather than your other idea which seems to be working all hours for free just so you can justify buying a potentially troublesome modern tractor.

 

[Bill dog]

As @Irish NZ said, the fencing option would offer a year round job. And you would learn a trade. Don’t know about over with you, but you couldn’t get hold of a good fencer over here, as they are all flat out .
Good luck with whatever you decide !

 

[puppet]

I know you don't necessarily need shiny kit for fencing, but you would if you are hoping to hire it out (protect p300s, Bryce Suma etc) so I would forget that idea. Be better with a small cheap tractor and post knocker and just doing fencing, topping the odd pony paddock topping, bit of muckaway for small local sites etc. Could get a simple 4wd 75hp tractor, reasonable post knocker, new 9ft topper, and a new 4t trailer for less than just the tractor you'd need to to any mainstream (and less profitable) contracting. Far less money tied up and you stand a chance of actually making a profit on each job. Rather than your other idea which seems to be working all hours for free just so you can justify buying a potentially troublesome modern tractor.

That would be a better plan. If you think you can help out the smaller farmers then get a smaller tractor, second hand 6 foot mower, tedder, grass topper for horse paddocks, log splitter for £500. These would all be at least £30/hr without diesel. As said before it is the machine behind which makes the money. Speak to farmers before you buy kit.
We have done the silage haulage work in the past as extra work. Long hours, none on a wet day, full revs with big trailers, hard on brakes and tyres and payment in September.

 

[aaronyoung]

That would be a better plan. If you think you can help out the smaller farmers then get a smaller tractor, second hand 6 foot mower, tedder, grass topper for horse paddocks, log splitter for £500. These would all be at least £30/hr without diesel. As said before it is the machine behind which makes the money. Speak to farmers before you buy kit.
We have done the silage haulage work in the past as extra work. Long hours, none on a wet day, full revs with big trailers, hard on brakes and tyres and payment in September.

The reason I want the bigger tractor is for bale carting because nobody will ask you to come 1 single simple as now I can get the loan of family member machinery ( slurry tanker topper agitator and a 20 ft trailer flat bed and a few other thing ) and I believe by offering my service around to tillage people also might be viable to making a small bit of profit

 

[Wellytrack]

Sounds like you want to do it.

 

[aaronyoung]

The way I. Look at it is if the machine pays for its self with a little bit of profit and your happy at what your doing well then give it a go

 

[aaronyoung]

Sounds like you want to do it.

Well I do but I don’t want to be working for the banks all the same

 

[Wellytrack]

Well I do but I don’t want to be working for the banks all the same

You will be your own boss but always working for someone else though, that’s an inescapable fact.

 

[aaronyoung]

Yes but I’ll be getting paid to do so ,will I not and therefore my expenditure will be less

 

[daveydiesel1]

. I understand time are tuff but I can tell your are more than likely a contractor urself ,I don’t want to sound cheeky here either but I think by saying that u are saying leave all the work to the big boys I would consider that to be greedy I don’t want to go to door looking and taking work no, I want to start from the very bottom and work my way up gradually you see all the big boys want is 200 acres off one farm but what about the little farmer that wants 30 acres of silage cut or mowed where is he put at the bottom of the list and the funny thing is he’s that one who pays you going out the gate but the man who wants 200 acres cut well he’s on top and guess what he doesn’t pay you till 5 months later and that’s why I think the market is in need Of someone to look little farmer who wants up to 70 acres cut now not tomorrow or next week now ,thanks again For you option

Am not a contractor. I farm and hire machinery to contractors. Was only givin u my opinion but after that its no odds to me what u do. If u wanna do it knock urself out

 

[daveydiesel1]

The reason I want the bigger tractor is for bale carting because nobody will ask you to come 1 single simple as now I can get the loan of family member machinery ( slurry tanker topper agitator and a 20 ft trailer flat bed and a few other thing ) and I believe by offering my service around to tillage people also might be viable to making a small bit of profit

Also if ur wantin to cart bales forget the bale lifters. Buy a loader tractor and 1 o them self loadin bale trailers its the only way ul get fair bita work cause itl be so much quicker and efficient

 

[aaronyoung]

Am not a contractor. I farm and hire machinery to contractors. Was only givin u my opinion but after that its no odds to me what u do. If u wanna do it knock urself out

I didn’t mean it in a bad way is there money in self hire machines ?