Tractor hp options

[daveydiesel1]

Surprising how much they can squeeze out of them these days. Our forager is only 9l but is 430hp. I think it must be one of the most power dense AG engines there is. 47hp/L. Make's plenty of turbo noise, i'd imagine they're chucking a fair bit of boost pressure into it.

What spfh is that?

 

[Farma Parma]

Surprising how much they can squeeze out of them these days. Our forager is only 9l but is 430hp. I think it must be one of the most power dense AG engines there is. 47hp/L. Make's plenty of turbo noise, i'd imagine they're chucking a fair bit of boost pressure into it.

8.4lt sisu or agco power as there now called is 425hp in that new massey. single turbo aswell
Havnt said that neighbours 2008 NH Combine has a 9lt Iveco Engine in & its 360hp back then

 

[ollie989898]

Amazes me what grunt can be had out of a 'small' 4 cylinder engine these days. I guess if you add enough capacity and auxiliary equipment you can get whatever you want to suit the application.

Mind, the growth of the big Merc, Man, Iveco, Cummins, CAT and Liebherr engines into agriculture astonishes me- the V8s, V12s and the like in modern choppers sound absolutely nuts and not bothered by anything. Listen to this puppy, sounds more like a warmed-up PowerStation than an engine.

 

[Lowland1]

I remember white cabbed 40 series being the new thing. Dont quite remember 10 series being new.

I remember the 600 series coming out. Not the Q cab ones either.A Ford 5600 was the same tractor as a Ford 6600 but with 10 hp more. Why would you buy the 68 hp one when you could have 78 hp . Life was complicated 49 years ago too.

 

[Still Farming]

Something different?
And their making money on selling them???

Any know make tractor stickers about and 8x your money over here????

 

[whindy]

I bought a John Deere 6145R instead of a 6155R as it was about 4K cheaper and could see nothing different in the specs apart from the horse power. I can get it remapped by Derv Doctor for £850 . When I spoke to him he said he could see no difference in the software between the 2 models so the only difference maybe the sticker on the bonnet.

Different clutch packs

 

[tractorsandcows]

I remember the 600 series coming out. Not the Q cab ones either.A Ford 5600 was the same tractor as a Ford 6600 but with 10 hp more. Why would you buy the 68 hp one when you could have 78 hp . Life was complicated 49 years ago too.

You mean 10 less You hardly ever saw a 56 but for some reason 66 was far more gutless then the 5000

 

[DrDunc]

You mean 10 less You hardly ever saw a 56 but for some reason 66 was far more gutless then the 5000

Aye, grandfather had them both together. Spreading slurry out with Howard barrels, the 5000 was always noticeably quicker to and from the fields. Uncle tweaked the 66 pump (5000 was standard), but even then it felt tight and seemed to lack lower rev torque

Was it a different pump on them?

Q cab was a MUCH nicer place to spend the day though!

 

[Lowland1]

You mean 10 less You hardly ever saw a 56 but for some reason 66 was far more gutless then the 5000

Yes put it the wrong way round. I have had a 5610 which was gutless compared with my 6610 which was poor compared with the 6410 which was not the tractor a 7610 was however they were all the same tractor more or less. I also had a 7910 which was not as good as the 8210 especially when we put turbos on them but they were the same tractor really. We have some Claas tractors now the same base tractor can either have 75 HP through to 102 HP you wonder if you could have bought the base model and just done a little messing with fuel pumps etc.

 

[Fendtbro]

You must be a young pup

I remember the astonishing grunt of the 7.5l in the range topping 8340 fords

They were 125hp

Admittedly zetor was showing the world how to do it properly far before then. In the 1970's when nobody else even had 4wd leaving the factory, they'd got 160hp out of their 6.8l.

Back then clutches, bearings, brake plates, even radiators were the same across the model range. Those big zetor crystals did frequently like a new plate in the bell housing! Local dealer could split one and have it back out in less than a day

Today deutz eak 250hp from their 6l, but though the engine is the same as fitted to their 160hp, the transmission differs with each increased hp model.

Cooling packs must also surely now differ where the engine output can differ by 50% between the lowest and highest in the range?

That said, I paid a man to "tweak" my 4.9l thirsty sisu powered valtra. Despite 30% more power, it uses less fuel, and runs cooler. Perhaps the engine map now makes more difference to what cooling hardware is necessary than the days when more fuel, and more hp, just required a 10mm spanner to the pump?

Yes the crystals were beasts and still are.. I ran a 12045 with an 8011 as a parts doner. Quite a few parts were different, less plates in the pto pack, less springs in the pressure plate and thinner gears in the final drives if i remember. You will likely be right with the biggest 3 ones being very similar but the little 80hp one was an absolute tank of a thing and very stable.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Amazes me what grunt can be had out of a 'small' 4 cylinder engine these days. I guess if you add enough capacity and auxiliary equipment you can get whatever you want to suit the application.

Mind, the growth of the big Merc, Man, Iveco, Cummins, CAT and Liebherr engines into agriculture astonishes me- the V8s, V12s and the like in modern choppers sound absolutely nuts and not bothered by anything. Listen to this puppy, sounds more like a warmed-up PowerStation than an engine.

I’ve heard of 2 local harvesters like that eating engines but was told at the time it was a jd engine perhaps they have let some can make them properly supply them now

 

[Deerefarmer]

I’ve heard of 2 local harvesters like that eating engines but was told at the time it was a jd engine perhaps they have let some can make them properly supply them now

Deere doesn't know how to make a big engine. The 13.5 was a disaster. The Germans seem to have figured something out in the large ag engine department

 

[Chae1]

Deere doesn't know how to make a big engine. The 13.5 was a disaster. The Germans seem to have figured something out in the large ag engine department

Yeah those 828 engines are legendary.

 

[Deerefarmer]

Yeah those 828 engines are legendary.

I said large...
Furthermore.....the engine was fine in itself, was the stupid emissions that caused its downfall.
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