Who was the idiot......?

[onesiedale]

Surely 30 miles on a busy A road people must have been overtaking all the time, otherwise it would have been a 10mile tailback?

It was

 

[Fendt516profi]

Must have missed that post but yeah that would be some length, fully freighted lorries have hooned past me without much effort before now though, especially the timber boys!

35 miles between 2 major towns on a trunk road at 25-30 miles/hour tests the patience. Especially when there's a clear road in front of the tractor but you can't overtake.
A tractor with a 30' trailer takes some commitment to over take. Throw into the mix of people behind, couple of lorries, a caravan, me with a trailer, and before you know ot there's a tail back as far as the eye can see, except of course the feckin' eye of the tractor driver

 

[Ivorbiggun]

A fully loaded lorry at 44 tons starting from even 30 mph with a 45 ft trailer behind over taking a tractor and trailer will need 1/4 mile clear road to overtake safely.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Must have missed that post but yeah that would be some length, fully freighted lorries have hooned past me without much effort before now though, especially the timber boys!

Yes if there already rolling they can pass quite easily but if they have to build up speed it's a bit more difficult

 

[lloyd]

If the road is not too fast I put on the left indicator on a clear
straight and drop the speed right down and the queue normally
overtake .There are not enough places on our local roads
to pull in a tractor and trailer over 30ft long and pull out safely.
Even if there is an HGV is often parked in it taking a break.

 

[Campbell]

There is a tale in these parts of a farmer who got 'delayed' in a tractor related tail back. When he eventually got past the tractor, he stopped the driver and gave him some words of advice on slow driving etiquette, before engaging in a right old bundle on the grass verge...

 

[onesiedale]

There are not enough places on our local roads
to pull in a tractor and trailer over 30ft long and pull out safely.

Which then begs the question, if you are travelling 35 miles should you not be using proper road freight vehicles?

 

[MRT]

If the road is not too fast I put on the left indicator on a clear
straight and drop the speed right down and the queue normaly
overtake .There are not enough places on our local roads
to pull in a tractor and trailer over 30ft long and pull out safely.
Even if there is an HGV is often parked in it taking a break.

How are you fixed if a flip flop wearing fool puts thier Golf into a ditch or grandad takes half an hour to overtake then though? Have you taken the risk assessment on your own shoulders?

 

[Poorbuthappy]

It was

No excuse for not pulling over in that time. It does indeed give us all a bad name.

As @Ali_Maxxum says though, I'm glad I rarely have to travel such roads with a tractor these days. Used to travel the A361, which in summer could be solid traffic doing 50+. Plenty of places to pull in, but getting out again is nigh on impossible, with a queue behind you within 30 seconds of getting out.

 

[lloyd]

How are you fixed if a flip flop wearing fool puts thier Golf into a ditch or grandad takes half an hour to overtake then though? Have you taken the risk assessment on your own shoulders?

I've reduced my speed on a clear straight not braked suddenly.
If you go into the back of someone then you haven't been paying
attention to the road.My risk assessment as you put it would be more dangerous
to build an even bigger queue where chancers overtake on blind spots
and end up in the hedge.

 

[oldoaktree]

If the road is not too fast I put on the left indicator on a clear
straight and drop the speed right down and the queue normaly
overtake .There are not enough places on our local roads
to pull in a tractor and trailer over 30ft long and pull out safely.
Even if there is an HGV is often parked in it taking a break.

Very easily done use to do this on a wider bit of strait road where possible or even pull up and stop on the side of the if again possible. It’s not rocket science.

 

[lloyd]

Which then begs the question, if you are travelling 35 miles should you not be using proper road freight vehicles?

Good job I dont go that far.

 

[MRT]

I've reduced my speed on a clear straight not braked suddenly.
If you go into the back of someone then you haven't been paying
attention to the road.My risk assessment as you put it would be more dangerous
to build an even bigger queue where chancers overtake on blind spots
and end up in the hedge.

I used to do what you do but stopped after a few heros nearly crashed, I would put the indicator on until something came the other way and found that nobody was prepared to be the last car behind me so they went anyway, my thinking is if they do something stupid they could say "you said it was safe" and put the blame on me despite me knocking the indicator off again when another vehicle came into view

 

[lloyd]

I used to do what you do but stopped after a few heros nearly crashed, I would put the indicator on until something came the other way and found that nobody was prepared to be the last car behind me so they went anyway, my thinking is if they do something stupid they could say "you said it was safe" and put the blame on me despite me knocking the indicator off again when another vehicle came into view

You have to have a clear long straight granted and once they've started overtaking
flick the indicator off if your still moving.You've got to keep checking your mirrors at
the same time and read the situation.
Quite often I get a beep of thanks or a wave and most motorists understand what your doing.

 

[roscoe erf]

I stated in my post I've followed cars with a line of vehicles behind doing 40 in 60 zones but nobody says they should pull over, why?

maybe because 40 isn't slow

 

[roscoe erf]

If the road is not too fast I put on the left indicator on a clear
straight and drop the speed right down and the queue normaly
overtake .There are not enough places on our local roads
to pull in a tractor and trailer over 30ft long and pull out safely.
Even if there is an HGV is often parked in it taking a break.

you should be able to pull along side it in most lay-bys and wait never mind if your blocking it the lay-by

 

[Fendt65]

Just a point of

Similar, was out tonight in coastguard truck on blue lights responding to people in the water on an eb tide. Met 4 ad trailers …. All on the phone. Guessing they were talking to each other. Got stuck behind one, sat behind directly in his mirror for 1 minute. Blue lights, head light flashes . Didn’t see us. Eventually got past, he was on his phone….. this needs to stop!
Edit, before anyone says. All the drivers were midle aged! Not a raised collar in site

on the point of the use of phones i was raking in very large field in the middle of nowhere and the phone went , so I answered it spoke to a friend for a couple of minutes
when i came back up the field I couldn’t believe there was such a large kink in my rowing up (before guidance) i have never used my phone on the road after that .

 

[lloyd]

you should be able to pull along side it in most lay-bys and wait never mind if your blocking it the lay-by

We dont get many proper lay -bys in Herefordshire .

 

[roscoe erf]

We dont get many proper lay -bys in Herefordshire .

there is quite a few

 

[lloyd]

there is quite a few

No there's not .
From here to Leominster which is 30 miles
there are 4 proper ones on the left hand side of the road outside of the urban area.
Edit
From here to kington which is 40 miles there are even less.