100 day finishing

[ali j]

Do many people finish cattle in the 100 day system. When do you decide the cattle are ready to finish do the big cattle finisher’s buy an animal at a set weight approximately then sell 100 days later. I appreciate there is many variables.

 

[AngusLad]

Know of a guy that finishes big big numbers of cull cows on a 90 day system. Basically buys them in feeds them and gets rid after 90 days. Reckons you can turn around even the leanest, hairiest of coos in that time. Struggle to see how reliably it would work with clean cattle though - too much variation in the cattle I'd think

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Do many people finish cattle in the 100 day system. When do you decide the cattle are ready to finish do the big cattle finisher’s buy an animal at a set weight approximately then sell 100 days later. I appreciate there is many variables.

Depends what condition you’re starting with and the genetics of the beast
I’d work on 120 days

 

[ali j]

But what point or weight do u start at

 

[Northeastfarmer]

It depends what your end target is. There’s no set figure imo. Heifers could be 450kg+
bullocks. 580kg +

 

[AngusLad]

How longs a piece of string? A 400kg 18 month old Angus heifer may finish in 100 days. But a 550kg 24 month old charollais bullock might take longer than 100 days. Depends entirely on the beast in front of you and your judgement as a buyer

 

[Hilly]

Surley its as simple as
It comes , feed them the best ration you can and sell them all in the store .. ??

 

[ali j]

Most things u read about would say the animal starts to slow up after around 100 days and then the economics don’t work out. I brought calves from 5 weeks old some are now at 20-22 months ranging from 570-720 kg. One in particular 22month 770 kg. Has been on 5.5-6 kg meal day on about 75 day now would this be ok or just average.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Most things u read about would say the animal starts to slow up after around 100 days and then the economics don’t work out. I brought calves from 5 weeks old some are now at 20-22 months ranging from 570-720 kg. One in particular 22month 770 kg. Has been on 5.5-6 kg meal day on about 75 day now would this be ok or just average.

The beast doesn’t even move for the first month of ad-lib. It’ll be motoring on at 100 days

 

[AngusLad]

Its something that only you will know the answer to. Work out what it's costing you to keep them per day compared to lwg per day

 

[ali j]

That’s the whole secret. It at most will probably only cover the cost of the finishing ration but then I took some mart and was not overpaid so I’m hoping if they cover the cost then there’s maybe some extra for what the animal might be worth if a finisher wast to buy it

 

[ridger]

I'm sort of on that system, if they haven't done it in 100 days they won't.

 

[gone up the hill]

Most things u read about would say the animal starts to slow up after around 100 days and then the economics don’t work out. I brought calves from 5 weeks old some are now at 20-22 months ranging from 570-720 kg. One in particular 22month 770 kg. Has been on 5.5-6 kg meal day on about 75 day now would this be ok or just average.

6 kilos a day of hard feed ( ie cake or grain etc ) will not be anywhere near enough to finish a half done steer at 570/ 650+/kilos quickly!

And at 770 kilos it should have already gone down the road!

 

[ali j]

They are averaging 1-1.3 a day. The one at770 has averaged 1.7 a day.

 

[bht]

The beast doesn’t even move for the first month of ad-lib. It’ll be motoring on at 100 days

This is where a TMR wins on a short finish, good dlwg from day one.

 

[Matthew Britton]

6 kilos a day of hard feed ( ie cake or grain etc ) will not be anywhere near enough to finish a half done steer at 570/ 650+/kilos quickly!

And at 770 kilos it should have already gone down the road!

We would feed 15 kgs of a mix containing amongst other things maize, maize gluten ( if we can get it) ,wheat gluten, linseed expellers, sugar beet pulp and calcium carbonate. Cull cows ( Limousine) usually gone at 100-120 days with a carcass weight between 400-500 depending on cow frame. At the moment food is 435€/ ton and last lot I got paid 5.45€/kg. Economics don’t really add up but with the way things are it gives us a market for them.

 

[livestock 1]

This is where a TMR wins on a short finish, good dlwg from day one.

Does a tmr not have that transition period when they come off grass and do nothing for a bit?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Used to fatten around 500 cull cows , size was not an issue , you had to choose the right cow , 2 weeks on straw to wean then then flew on add lib grain , easy gone in 100 days

 

[livestock 1]

Will cows pay on ad-lib grain at the moment?
They don’t convert very well

 

[Northeastfarmer]

This is where a TMR wins on a short finish, good dlwg from day one.

I would still say the beast won’t move for a few weeks, change of scenery and the rumen will take time to adjust to a new diet