First crop into derelict land

[farmerm]

is there anything to stop you taking the stewardship and then sell the carbon credits

Perhaps my ethics that make me uncomfortable mis-selling a "product" under the lie that land and trees can actually offset fossil fuel carbon emissions....

 

[steveR]

4L/ha glyphosate ASAP
Plough and leave (maybe flail before plough but after spray).
Glyphosate again.
Drill in autumn

With the advantage of the Ploughing acting as a "break" in the use of the land by walkers. Leave it rough as you can!

 

[mo!]

With the advantage of the Ploughing acting as a "break" in the use of the land by walkers. Leave it rough as you can!

I specialise in rough ploughing!

 

[steveR]

I specialise in rough ploughing!

Pah, I suspect you are but playing at the job compared to my attempts recently....

 

[farmerm]

Pah, I suspect you are but playing at the job compared to my attempts recently....

ploughing, recently our ground wouldnt go at the moment, even if I only ploughed downhill!

 

[herman]

Had ta similar opportunity 10 plus years ago.
The land had not been touched for about 6 years but was arable beforehand.
We sprayed it off with glyphosate beginning of September put about 2t ac of lime on, ploughed it and combi drilled wheat off the heap mid October.
Had quite a lot of rook damage through the winter but springtime it just grew away and filled in.
Probably one of the best yields of wheat I've ever combined. Its become some of our best land to date.
I can remember the land growing fodder beet many years before and we had a crop of it coming through an over winter cover crop a couple of years ago.
Never had trouble with any leather jackets or wireworm but I suspect the rooks were after them in the first winter.
Have seen a couple of leather jackets this last spring but no damage to see.

 

[glasshouse]

I specialise in rough ploughing!

Have u got a few hares with broken legs?

 

[Flat 10]

Have u got a few hares with broken legs?

That’s what my grandad always said, do you have many hares in Scotland?

 

[glasshouse]

That’s what my grandad always said, do you have many hares in Scotland?

Yes lots

 

[Badshot]

And how would you get there? The grass is currently 3' tall? Flail off? Sheep might work but we have none and there are tracks from dog walkers all over.

The mzuri would put them into grass?
If not, then find someone with a weaving.

Winter beans, not this spring.

I'd let someone stick sheep on it for the summer.

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

Could you get a crop of grass off it this year, plenty of muck and lime if necessary and then into wheat? Might be old fashioned but big dose of glyphosate and plough in summer, let it weather down glyphosate again and combi drill.

 

[APJ]

We’ve taken on lots of ground on like this in the past, plenty of hen muck lime plough and high seed rate and roll it well, then feed the crop properly, we’ve had some big yields of spring barley like this, followed with rape then wheat and all your bugs will be gone.

 

[N.Yorks.]

Hoping to rent some land of a neighbour, currently in poor grass that was last cut in 2019 (bales still in the field). Wet medium to clay land, trio, plough or contract Mzuri available. Ideally get it into first wheat in the autumn, we grow maize, cereals and beans on the farm, lots of muck available. How should I attack it?

What sort of acreage are you talking about?

How long would you be able to have it for?

How well does it drain, does it often flood?

Have you got a basic pH, P, K, Mg soil analysis?

 

[AndrewM]

for us we, sprayed off and topped in july, ploughed and sowed stubble turnips and rape, grazed with cattle, then spring barley. then winter beans and in the third year wheat, which was a very good crop. only change would be to be not to plough it in the first year as it was very soft underfoot grazing turnips with cattle.

 

[dave6470]

I rented a 40 acre farm like that hadn't been farmed for 10 years took it on the basis I didn't have to pay any rent for first 3 years spent most of winter cutting back hedges
then mowed all grass and lifted with a silage wagon and dumped on a large bit of rough ground to rot down spryed of and planted potato's first year then spring barley for two years then back into grass

 

[Flat 10]

I rented a 40 acre farm like that hadn't been farmed for 10 years took it on the basis I didn't have to pay any rent for first 3 years spent most of winter cutting back hedges
then mowed all grass and lifted with a silage wagon and dumped on a large bit of rough ground to rot down spryed of and planted potato's first year then spring barley for two years then back into grass

Never understood how you can do potatoes after grass but some do, I would be terrified of leatherjackets etc

 

[dave6470]

Never understood how you can do potatoes after grass but some do, I would be terrified of leatherjackets etc

the only time I've ever had leatherjacket problem in potatos it was on ground that had been in wheat and barly for years never had any problems out of grass

 

[Flat 10]

the only time I've ever had leatherjacket problem in potatos it was on ground that had been in wheat and barly for years never had any problems out of grass

Wireworm?

 

[dave6470]

Wireworm?

or wireworm