Grandfather rights

[Beefsmith]

Do grandfather rights still exist for forklift driving? Got a friend who’s taken early retirement looking for some summer work and he’s keen to help around the yard with the drier etc. He’s 65 years old and an ex plant mechanic and 360 operator so capable etc.

 

[Lincs Lass]

How many retired farmers will have got a forklift ticket ,,still plenty of over 70s in the job .

 

[ffukedfarmer]

Why not put him through the test? If he’s capable would only be a day and £300 to get his ticket

 

[Bobthebuilder]

There's no legal requirement to have a ticket for a forklift on a farm

 

[Timbo]

There's no legal requirement to have a ticket for a forklift on a farm

But youll likely be uninsured.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

But youll likely be uninsured.

Depends on your insurance company, nfu just say operator should have had adequate training

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Also there are so many different tests that some companies don’t recognise

 

[thesilentone]

Depends on your insurance company, nfu just say operator should have had adequate training

However, the NFU also refers to training providers that carry our ' recognised training courses '

 

[Timbo]

Depends on your insurance company, nfu just say operator should have had adequate training

I'd like to see that stand up in court.

There is no excuse for no regular formal training, and a 'mature' person who's been driving a loader for many years is much more likely to be the most dangerous / risk taker.

 

[Nearly]

Depends on your insurance company, nfu just say operator should have had adequate training

If you have a claimable accident are you deemed not to have had 'adequate' training?
Catch22 the same as secure load legislation?

 

[thesilentone]

Do grandfather rights still exist for forklift driving? Got a friend who’s taken early retirement looking for some summer work and he’s keen to help around the yard with the drier etc. He’s 65 years old and an ex plant mechanic and 360 operator so capable etc.

Grandfather rights are slowly being kicked into touch. Now, even using a hand held knapsack no longer apply's.

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[Bobthebuilder]

I'd like to see that stand up in court.

There is no excuse for no regular formal training, and a 'mature' person who's been driving a loader for many years is much more likely to be the most dangerous / risk taker.

So your saying someone with 50yrs experience is a worse operator than a 18yr old fresh out of college with a ticket to say he can drive a forklift

 

[thesilentone]

So your saying someone with 50yrs experience is a worse operator than a 18yr old fresh out of college with a ticket to say he can drive a forklift

Yes, sad but true, not saying the 50yrs experience makes the operator worse, but we now live in the world of accountability I'm afraid.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Yes, sad but true.

Pardon my language but absolute b ollocks

 

[thesilentone]

Pardon my language but absolute b ollocks

Not saying it's right, but it's HSE bread and butter. Years ago a plant hire operator in Yorkshire had operated machines thrown off a site by the HSE as they had no competency tickets. He challenged them to send any operator from anywhere to perform and operate a machine safer and better than his operators. Didn't matter, until his team had tickets, they could not go on any site, anywhere.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Not saying it's right, but it's HSE bread and butter. Years ago a plant hire operator in Yorkshire had operated machines thrown off a site by the HSE as they had no competency tickets. He challenged them to send any operator from anywhere to perform and operate a machine safer and better than his operators. Didn't matter, until his team had tickets, they could not go on any site, anywhere.

The problem is agriculture is a LOT different to site work for tickets and there lies the problem, if there was 1 ticket recognised by everyone it would be a lot simpler

 

[7610 super q]

How the f**k can the test take all day and cost £300 ?

 

[tullah]

20% of uk employees are doing non productive work.
Worse than that, they are hindering those who want to get on.

 

[thesilentone]

The problem is agriculture is a LOT different to site work for tickets and there lies the problem, if there was 1 ticket recognised by everyone it would be a lot simpler

There generally is one ticket now, but as long as the training provider is ' recognised' all is good. However, Agriculture already get's away with murder with other mandatory tests applicable to Commercial businesses using similar machines, as most (not all) work is carried out off road.

The best route to getting the ticket in the Ag sector is via the ag companies such as BAGMA or LANTRA.

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[manhill]

Peed off with bs, roll on anarchy!