Is spreading slurry allowed now??

mixed breed

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Yesterday there was a strong smell of slurry spreading, I thought it was not allowed this time of year because of new regulations
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I thought all of Wales was now NVZ, or did they back track on that .
Good point, I’d forgot about that, I’m not sure what the outcome of that was in the end but haven’t heard of any rush to extend storage the other side of offas dyke.
IIRC when we went into a NVZ here about 10 years ago we were given 2/3 years notice to get storage up to scratch, I would imagine the same would have to apply anywhere as planning would need to be obtained, quotes for work as well as quite possibly finance sorted along with the fact there’s only so many contractors who can deal the work so they may have a lot of extra work on their hands, I don’t see how it could be practically adhered to at short notice.
 

vantage

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I thought all of Wales was now NVZ, or did they back track on that .
On track for late '23.
All Wales not in NVZ yet, waiting to see if NFU can get it stopped
Think you can still spread if ground conditions are ok
Probably can't stop it, but if the 250kg N/ha derogation for 80%grass can be reapplied, from the 170kg N/ha proposed, then I think we can live with it, otherwise it's a matter of spending to comply with stocking rate limits less than Organic.
 

neilo

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Neighbours been spreading all week. 4 tankers feeding an umbilical .
might not be NVZ, but ground is saturated and I wouldn’t mind betting a lot of it will be in the drains or brook .

Saw the same (in Wales) a few days ago, with an umbilical onto waterlogged maize stubbles on the banks of a river. It might not be illegal yet, but it's just the reason why we are getting it imposed on all of us! :mad:
 

neilo

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On track for late '23.

Probably can't stop it, but if the 250kg N/ha derogation for 80%grass can be reapplied, from the 170kg N/ha proposed, then I think we can live with it, otherwise it's a matter of spending to comply with stocking rate limits less than Organic.

Part of the co-operation agreement signed recently by Plaid and Labour was to look at applying NVZ regs in a more targeted way, rather than across all of Wales. It will likely mean that it comes in for the areas with most dairy cows and chickens though.
Given Plaid's greeny ambitions, I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed for even lower limits, but targeted for those areas. :rolleyes:
 

Campani

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Part of the co-operation agreement signed recently by Plaid and Labour was to look at applying NVZ regs in a more targeted way, rather than across all of Wales. It will likely mean that it comes in for the areas with most dairy cows and chickens though.
Given Plaid's greeny ambitions, I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed for even lower limits, but targeted for those areas. :rolleyes:
I don't understand why a different system couldn't be put in place for Dairy and poultry. We are going to have to create a nutrient management plan for a low input sheep farm.
 
Farmers don’t help themselves 🥴
As much as I hate all these rules, it’s easy enough to see why they get brought in.
Not too far from here there’s a 350 cow dairy farm just outside of the NVZ, they had a big push emptying slurry onto their maize ground just before Christmas so that they didn’t have to spread again until new year, they’ve got 2 weeks storage provided it doesn’t rain too much
 

vantage

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The All wales NVZ regulations come in over time. this sets out the rules in clear english.

closed periods for slurry come into place from 1st August 2024.
Thanks for that, I knew it wasn't imminent, just wasn't sure when.
Part of the co-operation agreement signed recently by Plaid and Labour was to look at applying NVZ regs in a more targeted way, rather than across all of Wales. It will likely mean that it comes in for the areas with most dairy cows and chickens though.
Given Plaid's greeny ambitions, I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed for even lower limits, but targeted for those areas. :rolleyes:
Apparently not just chicken and dairy cow areas, those suckler farms with a midden are also an issue, heard on good authority. We'll only have a small extensive farming industry if these regulations go through as they are. At no stage did the industry say we didn't have a relatively small issue, after all the majority of farmers don't knowingly go out to pollute every week, unlike the water companies and their underperforming sewage works
 

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