We have a 6215r with a Gen 4 display. We have a 2016 Kuhn 40.2 spreader, 2014 JD750a drill and a Vad Rapid Drill think it's a 2007. The Gen4 I am told will not do variable rate with my machines, they are too old. Anyone else having similar problem, seems a never ending spend with GPS !
John Deere Gen4 won't do variable rate.
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We had similar with our horsch sprinter, so we put a 2630 screen in alongside the gen 4 which worked fine so updated drill software & it works on the gen 4 fixed screen now? Maybe worth updating a machine to try? Cheers dh
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This is my constant gripe with JD, everything always needs an unlock or an update. Always mega money too.
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go trimble or topcon
until JD stop the unlock craziness and making it hard to use with 3rd party kit without paying again it’s not worth owning no matter how good it is
they have the business model totally wrong on their tech imo and will suffer long term ad a result of not fixed
we started off with greenstar 15 years ago but i saw this coming and sold it all to replace with Topcon that has moved through various tractor brands and machines ever since - was a good move with hindsight !
over the years we have replaced some hardware as it’s worn out but am yet to ever bu an unlock of any sort, we run VRA and rtk steering on every machine we use, various brands
until JD stop the unlock craziness and making it hard to use with 3rd party kit without paying again it’s not worth owning no matter how good it is
they have the business model totally wrong on their tech imo and will suffer long term ad a result of not fixed
we started off with greenstar 15 years ago but i saw this coming and sold it all to replace with Topcon that has moved through various tractor brands and machines ever since - was a good move with hindsight !
over the years we have replaced some hardware as it’s worn out but am yet to ever bu an unlock of any sort, we run VRA and rtk steering on every machine we use, various brands
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You need the premium activation to do VR through the 4600, don’t let the dealer fob you off saying your processor is to old either. There is an update program to change the processor to the later one, you’d probably have to pay a bit of labour but only an hour of a job, I was there when they did mine.
If you bite the bullet and get the ultimate activation you get the automated turn also.
If you bite the bullet and get the ultimate activation you get the automated turn also.
If your machine is isobus you can do variable rate
it’s only machine non iso bus we can’t do
but we have a work round
What type of spreader have you got and all so the 750 will do VR
There is new software for isobus 750 drills and gen 4 displays
New Masseys come with either Trimble or Topcon, so I was wondering what made you opt for Topcon over Trimble, as I can't see much difference between them.
not a lot of difference now but I took this decision 15 years ago when there was more difference and we put a topcon RTK base in. Kee as it was then was a better package for us than Trimble at that time
Im not up to speed on the detailed pro's and cons of Trimble vs topcon these days, but I do still like the Topcon, all I can say its its been very little trouble over the years and its very user friendly
they all do basically the same thing so its really all about price and hidden unlock costs like JD love really
consider backup as well - that's where JD excel I think, LH (our Topcon support) are good but don't have a national network of dealers like JD do for example
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Don't the new Masseys come with Trimble or Novatel instead of Trimble or Topcon, just like Fendt moved from Toopcon to Trimble/Novatel.
The main change I think is that they abandoned the Topcon X30 (AGCO variant) screen and have that part integrated to the tractor screen (like Fendt did already at Topcon time). The GNSS receiver from Trimble or Novatel does less than the Topcon AGI-4 variant used to do. I believe the main difference between Trimble and Novatel is rangepoint or centerpoint support from Trimble if one does not want to go to full RTK.
What, even more unlocky than John Deere?
It'd be a close run thing.
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