Puma 140 to small for 16/18t trailers?

[starkey92]

Hi all,

I'm in the market for a tractor to mostly pull 16/18t potato and onion trailers with the odd load of maize too hopefully. Budget is very tight (close to £25,000 as poss) and I had been aiming for the likes of a 69/7530 Deere for simplicity and resale value, but I've seen a couple of older style 140 pumas with much lower hours and price than the Deere's. Not to worried about power as a remap should solve that but I am worried if there's enough bulk behind them to control a big trailer. An Internet search suggests the case actually weighs more than a 6930 but I thought they looked smaller! Any one got any first hand experience on that or what to look at in a used case? Many thanks!

 

[icanshootwell]

I,ve heard its flat in Suffolk so your probably be ok, i would of thought 180 to 200 hp would be a better investment and should not be a lot more money.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Sometimes the larger tractor is a bit cheaper as second hand buyers tend to be smaller scale than new buyers. Obviously this is a generalisation and not true to every1

 

[ollandroverman]

There is more than enough bulk in a Puma for what you ask.

 

[pail of ale]

Allways easier to add than subtract weight .

 

[powerontheland]

100hp was good enough 20 years ago!

 

[Jim75]

A 69 or 75 in that budget will have done a heap of hours. Is that the pumas at robson? They look like a shout. Been looking for a while to fit a certain niche and laugh if you may but you’d get a 200hp McCormick in your budget if not under it will 5000hrs.

 

[Chae1]

Is a 140 a 6cylinder? I always remember carting off with a 6420s and 18t trailer. It was dangerous, used to push tractor round at junctions and almost stopped going up steep hills

 

[Drillman]

On the road it will be fine plenty power, maybe not that fast up hills but that’s what gears are for.
steep fields and soft ground mite make for slow progress though.

 

[Dave6170]

Remember us at harvest @Jim75 ?? 6230 on the stewart!

 

[icanshootwell]

100hp was good enough 20 years ago!

If you,re going to put a 100 hp on a 18 ton trailer, there are 2 things you will need.
1. A very dry Autumn.
2. A clean set of underwear.

 

[Flat 10]

If it’s the 140 I think it is it spent most of its time on an 18t trailer or a beet drill.

 

[starkey92]

I,ve heard its flat in Suffolk so your probably be ok, i would of thought 180 to 200 hp would be a better investment and should not be a lot more money.

yes, its pretty flat round here. I would ideally like to push for a higher HP tractor but funds are fairly tight!

 

[starkey92]

A 69 or 75 in that budget will have done a heap of hours. Is that the pumas at robson? They look like a shout. Been looking for a while to fit a certain niche and laugh if you may but you’d get a 200hp McCormick in your budget if not under it will 5000hrs.

That's the trouble, but at least the 30 series are known to do higher hours with a bit of love. I'm unsure about reliability of some other brands at 8/9000 hrs. I'm not a particularly huge John Deere fan but their known faults (egr/turbo/head gasket) I can fix myself without too much hassle. Yes it was that one I was thinking about, have seen another 1 or 2 about as well. Whats the reliability like on a McCormick? Thanks!

 

[starkey92]

Is a 140 a 6cylinder? I always remember carting off with a 6420s and 18t trailer. It was dangerous, used to push tractor round at junctions and almost stopped going up steep hills

Yes, 6 cylinder. See, thats exactly what I want to avoid!!

 

[starkey92]

If it’s the 140 I think it is it spent most of its time on an 18t trailer or a beet drill.

the one at Robsons?

 

[Andrew]

140hp will be fine, I’d want a 6cyl though (not sure on Case models) won’t be the quickest but will be fine.

I’d be more worried about the tractor having enough oil to tip the trailer up, as our 125hp JD is fine on a 16t apart from will only tip it half way.

 

[daveydiesel1]

140hp will be fine, I’d want a 6cyl though (not sure on Case models) won’t be the quickest but will be fine.

I’d be more worried about the tractor having enough oil to tip the trailer up, as our 125hp JD is fine on a 16t apart from will only tip it half way.

A 140 puma is a 6pot. Its either the same as a t6050 or t6070 nh range command. Cant just remember which 1 tho

 

[Hesston4860s]

A lot of folks going off pumas round here as they eat brakes for breakfast.

 

[Hilly]

Need good trailer brakes .