did you use a MooreUniDrill or did I imagine that? if so what settings/ spacing. this could be a game changer for me if I can get it drilled into grass
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DD on livestock farm
- Thread starter scholland
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Heading out now but will try to remember to reply tomorrow.
@d-wales
Yes it was drilled direct with the moore. I did some with every second Coulter open, some every third. Probably prefer every second. Seed can't go through small seed wheels so had issues with seed bounce as the wheels were turning so slowly. Next year I will mix the seed with granulated lime to get more going through the drill.
I would like to try it straight into grass but it will probably be into stubble next year.
Wondering about a set of short discs to help break down old turf.
Yes it was drilled direct with the moore. I did some with every second Coulter open, some every third. Probably prefer every second. Seed can't go through small seed wheels so had issues with seed bounce as the wheels were turning so slowly. Next year I will mix the seed with granulated lime to get more going through the drill.
I would like to try it straight into grass but it will probably be into stubble next year.
Wondering about a set of short discs to help break down old turf.
- Location
- Perthshire, Scotland
Sorry if this has already been discussed, not wanting to look through 22 pages!!
Neighbour has an Aitchison drill and does a fair bit of contracting with it. Had good success getting him in to sow forage rape into 2nd cut silage stubble.
I’m a bit concerned thought that the spacing between the rows is too wide for sowing grass. What are the options, hopefully without him having to do two passes, half rate at different angles, doubling the cost per acre?
Neighbour has an Aitchison drill and does a fair bit of contracting with it. Had good success getting him in to sow forage rape into 2nd cut silage stubble.
I’m a bit concerned thought that the spacing between the rows is too wide for sowing grass. What are the options, hopefully without him having to do two passes, half rate at different angles, doubling the cost per acre?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
That's about your only option with a standard Aitchison (they do a narrower spaced version IIRC), unless you are happy to accept wider row spacings. Longer term ryegrasses will fill in the space eventually, but they might be beaten to it by weed species.
I have my own Aitchison, so cost is less of an issue, but I always do two passes at a slight angle. Even so, and with management to encourage tillering, I can still make out 2 sets of lines in a good pasture a year later.
I think the only way round that is more soil disturbance and broadcasting....
pine_guy
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- Location
- North Cumbria
Most contractors charge a little less for the second pass. £25 for one or £40-45 for two
Did you DD the forage rape straight into the cut grass field without spraying or discing or anything? If you did I'd quite like to see some pictures
I'd planned to try it this year but it was too dry
Joe
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- Location
- Carlow Ireland
What to you do Neil to get ground back into grass after DD turnips, do you DD into where the turnips were or plough and till? considering options here for next year and wondering would DD back into grass work or some sort of till needed
- Location
- Perthshire, Scotland
@hendrebc
We direct drilled rape this year. Roundup on day 1, cut and baled on day 4, drilled on day 5 with an Aitchison drill. It was sown on 20th of July and photos were taken on 4th of October
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
So srtaight into stubble after silage cut.
That is a revelation,looks superb.
It’s something I will definitely be looking at for next year.
Suppose you could also pop in some high vigour ryegrass in also to pep up an old sward.
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pine_guy
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- Location
- North Cumbria
So was that direct drilled? Looks very even spaced and a really good size.
Ye dd, not all the bulbs are that size...... Decent yield overall though!
JD-Kid
Member
- Location
- Akaroa.. New Zealand
depends on the drill alot of the newer ones 5 inch rows
graze early to make the grass tiller out and give it some N
some guys will. broadcast the clovers which help to fill in the gaps
henric irbladh
Member
- Location
- Sweden,south
How large area do they graze a day and how well do they graze the beet (0,10 or 25% waste)?Really enjoying feeding the beet, but it didn't rain today so that's probably why!
Is it just temporary snow on the pic or have you got some real winter too?
This bunch are in small daily strips as they don't have much grass, other batch are on twice weekly moves, aiming for 1.8kg dm per ewe.
I dug up what is being left and worked out utilisation of 86%.
Not much more than frost really, very slight bit of snow.
edwhite
Member
We direct drilled oats, beans, peas, vetch and wheat into 6 ha of permanent pasture on November the 1st. We didn’t spray off as it was for a grazing trial and to boost a bit of biodiversity. It looks really good but did go on at 200kg/ha as I wanted to use up what was in the store. All was untreated
